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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLimey View Post
    The Nazis also were not concerned with the so called 'white race'. I am not a Nazi but 'whiteness' seems to me to be obviously an American concept.
    Tell that to British poet Rudyard Kipling who wrote the poem "White man's burden''.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man%27s_Burden

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    Tell that to British poet Rudyard Kipling who wrote the poem "White man's burden''.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man%27s_Burden
    Sorry, mate , I am not understanding your point since he wrote that in context of the Filipino–American War, within the American paradigm, and that had to do with Filipinos not other Europeans e.g. Hungarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLimey View Post
    Sorry, mate , I am not understanding your point since he wrote that in context of the Filipino–American War, within the American paradigm, and that had to do with Filipinos not other Europeans e.g. Hungarians.
    He was British and not trying to seem American. It was British imperial doctrine that whites and their civilization are superior and that whites have as their duty to civilize other races.
    The imperialist interpretation of "The White Man's Burden" (1899) proposes that the white race is morally obliged to civilise the non-white peoples of planet Earth, and to encourage their progress (economic, social, and cultural) through colonialism:[12]

    The implication, of course, was that the Empire existed not for the benefit — economic or strategic or otherwise — of Britain, itself, but in order that primitive peoples, incapable of self-government, could, with British guidance, eventually become civilized (and Christianized).[13]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man%27s_Burden

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    He was British and not trying to seem American. It was British imperial doctrine that whites and their civilization are superior and that whites have as their duty to civilize other races.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man%27s_Burden
    Ok. I am still not understanding your point are we trying to Germanize or Britishize (not a real word , right? ) the Hungarians here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLimey View Post
    Ok. I am still not understanding your point are we trying to Germanize or Britishize (not a real word , right? ) the Hungarians here ?
    Neither. I am just saying they are white Europeans and that the concept of 'whiteness' if you will is European in origin, not American or just American.

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    It's true that Americans have called themselves white more than Europeans, because they have always lived in a multi-racial country, but the concept is European and Europeans also call themselves that when contrasting oneself with 'people of color'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    Neither. I am just saying they are white Europeans and that the concept of 'whiteness' if you will is European in origin, not American or just American.
    Ok, mate, the Nazis were concerned with what their idea of the ideal German race should be like and British people are also Germanic but we don't look like the Germans but Hungarians are not a Germanic people. There is no consensus on what 'whiteness' means.

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