G25: Are you closer to EEF, Yamnaya or other ancient populations?

**~~Ugo~~** · 10-21-2023, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Katarzyna

Here is the Polish average, and below is me.

Distance to: Polish
0.14923420 Yamnaya
0.23018777 SHG
0.23240214 EHG
0.24497744 EEF
0.27868731 CHG
0.31299387 Natufian
0.32796159 WHG
0.33138722 Iran_Neolithic
0.34331166 Dravidian
0.48120409 Beringian
0.48772176 Iberomaurusian
0.61168607 Rudnaya
0.67905153 Indigenous_South_American
0.77518632 Sub-Saharan

Distance to: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
0.14559861 Yamnaya
0.22194610 SHG
0.22446732 EHG
0.25410205 EEF
0.28335882 CHG
0.32161487 Natufian
0.32226999 WHG
0.33597370 Iran_Neolithic
0.34679635 Dravidian
0.47911342 Beringian
0.49211151 Iberomaurusian
0.61087110 Rudnaya
0.67836813 Indigenous_South_American
0.77414289 Sub-Saharan

Distance to: Vjatych_scaled
0.14007268 Yamnaya
0.21277851 EHG
0.21617642 SHG
0.26375932 EEF
0.28000688 CHG
0.32127599 WHG
0.32604635 Natufian
0.33082745 Iran_Neolithic
0.33910253 Dravidian
0.46234639 Beringian
0.49644428 Iberomaurusian
0.59643241 Rudnaya
0.66092485 Indigenous_South_American
0.77926768 Sub-Saharan

**Katarzyna** · 10-21-2023, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Vjatych

Distance to: Vjatych_scaled
0.14007268 Yamnaya
0.21277851 EHG
0.21617642 SHG
0.26375932 EEF
0.28000688 CHG
0.32127599 WHG
0.32604635 Natufian
0.33082745 Iran_Neolithic
0.33910253 Dravidian
0.46234639 Beringian
0.49644428 Iberomaurusian
0.59643241 Rudnaya
0.66092485 Indigenous_South_American
0.77926768 Sub-Saharan

Yes, you are the winner. The only aryan here while we others are all farmers... hahahaha

**Croatian Legend** · 10-21-2023, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Katarzyna

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 5.9745% / 0.05974488
41.2 Yamnaya
31.8 EEF
27.0 SHG

Yeah, the SHG makes total sense. I also look like a Baltic HG

So hunter gathere have snub nose and weak jaw hahahaha

(Just joking)

**Kiel** · 10-21-2023, 08:29 PM

Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 3.9928% / 0.03992765
46.6 Yamnaya
41.2 EEF
12.2 WHG

Distance to: Kiel_scaled
0.16433329 Yamnaya
0.20717470 EEF
0.25850274 SHG
0.26347223 EHG
0.26594061 CHG
0.28614870 Natufian
0.31544801 Iran_Neolithic
0.33384105 Dravidian
0.34427782 WHG
0.47638192 Iberomaurusian
0.48878678 Beringian
0.61495955 Rudnaya
0.68317622 Indigenous_South_American
0.76958755 Sub-Saharan

**~~Ugo~~** · 10-21-2023, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Katarzyna

Yes, you are the winner. The only aryan here while we others are all farmers... hahahaha

I didn't have to post my results?

**Katarzyna** · 10-21-2023, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Croatian Legend

So hunter gathere have snub nose and weak jaw hahahaha

(Just joking)

Yes, look at the reconstruction of the Narva Baltic HG. Dark hair, dark eyes and snub nose.

**cass** · 10-21-2023, 10:20 PM

Target: cass
Distance: 5.3159% / 0.05315852
41.2 Yamnaya
35.4 EEF
22.6 SHG
0.8 WHG

Target: PolishL_Kociewie1_scaled
Distance: 5.0111% / 0.05011050
42.8 Yamnaya
33.2 EEF
24.0 SHG

Target: German_West_Prussia
Distance: 5.8504% / 0.05850379
39.6 Yamnaya
34.8 EEF
25.4 SHG
0.2 WHG

Target: German_Farther_Pomerania
Distance: 5.9352% / 0.05935194
40.6 Yamnaya
34.0 EEF
23.0 SHG
2.4 WHG

**rothaer** · 10-22-2023, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Kiel

Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 3.9928% / 0.03992765
46.6 Yamnaya
41.2 EEF
12.2 WHG

Distance to: Kiel_scaled
0.16433329 Yamnaya
0.20717470 EEF
0.25850274 SHG
0.26347223 EHG
0.26594061 CHG
0.28614870 Natufian
0.31544801 Iran_Neolithic
0.33384105 Dravidian
0.34427782 WHG
0.47638192 Iberomaurusian
0.48878678 Beringian
0.61495955 Rudnaya
0.68317622 Indigenous_South_American
0.76958755 Sub-Saharan

Funny that I'm closer to Yamnaya in spite of that you have more of it.

Distance to: rothaer_scaled
0.15052122 Yamnaya
0.23093768 SHG
0.23496530 EEF
0.23817305 EHG
0.27834779 CHG
0.30639359 Natufian
0.32363903 WHG
0.33057021 Iran_Neolithic
0.34334321 Dravidian
0.48299335 Iberomaurusian
0.48460740 Beringian
0.61332634 Rudnaya
0.68292506 Indigenous_South_American
0.77477121 Sub-Saharan

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 4.4887% / 0.04488703
42.0 Yamnaya
35.4 EEF
17.6 SHG
5.0 WHG

EDIT: After SHG is a mixture of WHG and EHG and does not correspond (pre) historically to anything in reality for non-Scandinavians it should be removed. Also, it seems to wrongly shrink Yamnaya as it provides another alternative for the Yamnaya EHG to be assigned if you also happen to have enough WHG for that SHG mixture. EHG in this calculator may be understood as "extra EHG" considering that Yamanaya consists of EHG something like 60%. If you get this you will in reality simply hail more from northern IE speakers from the forest steppe belt neighbouring Yamnaya in the north which had somewhat more EHG in their mixture than had Yamnaya proper. I then get this:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 4.5798% / 0.04579807
45.6 Yamnaya
34.8 EEF
15.4 WHG
4.2 EHG

**Boudin** · 10-22-2023, 07:01 AM

Distance to	Boudin
Yamnaya	0.18
Early European Farmer	0.19
Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherer	0.27
Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer	0.27
Eastern Hunter-Gatherer	0.28
Natufian	0.28
Iran-Neolithic	0.32
Dravidian	0.34
Western Hunter-Gatherer	0.35
Iberomaurusian	0.47
Beringian	0.48
Rudnaya	0.61
Indigenous South American	0.68
Sub-Saharan	0.78

Target	Boudin
Distance	3.7%
Early European Farmer	46.8
Yamnaya	40.4
Western Hunter-Gatherer	11.0
Eastern Hunter-Gatherer	1.2
Beringian	0.6

**cass** · 10-22-2023, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by rothaer

Funny that I'm closer to Yamnaya in spite of that you have more of it.

Distance to: rothaer_scaled
0.15052122 Yamnaya
0.23093768 SHG
0.23496530 EEF
0.23817305 EHG
0.27834779 CHG
0.30639359 Natufian
0.32363903 WHG
0.33057021 Iran_Neolithic
0.34334321 Dravidian
0.48299335 Iberomaurusian
0.48460740 Beringian
0.61332634 Rudnaya
0.68292506 Indigenous_South_American
0.77477121 Sub-Saharan

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 4.4887% / 0.04488703
42.0 Yamnaya
35.4 EEF
17.6 SHG
5.0 WHG

EDIT: After SHG is a mixture of WHG and EHG and does not correspond (pre) historically to anything in reality for non-Scandinavians it should be removed. Also, it seems to wrongly shrink Yamnaya as it provides another alternative for the Yamnaya EHG to be assigned if you also happen to have enough WHG for that SHG mixture. EHG in this calculator may be understood as "extra EHG" considering that Yamanaya consists of EHG something like 60%. If you get this you will in reality simply hail more from northern IE speakers from the forest steppe belt neighbouring Yamnaya in the north which had somewhat more EHG in their mixture than had Yamnaya proper. I then get this:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 4.5798% / 0.04579807
45.6 Yamnaya
34.8 EEF
15.4 WHG
4.2 EHG

Interesting. It makes all the difference.

Target: cass
Distance: 5.4324% / 0.05432440
45.8 Yamnaya
34.6 EEF
14.2 WHG
5.4 EHG

Target: PolishL_Kociewie1_scaled
Distance: 5.2736% / 0.05273574
42.8 Yamnaya
33.8 EEF
12.2 WHG
11.2 EHG

Target: German_West_Prussia
Distance: 5.9975% / 0.05997535
47.4 Yamnaya
33.2 EEF
16.0 WHG
3.4 EHG

Target: German_Farther_Pomerania
Distance: 6.0553% / 0.06055262
47.8 Yamnaya
32.4 EEF
16.8 WHG
3.0 EHG