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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Yes, fully sure. The Shafis in Turkey are pretty much all Kurds and the practice is well known among them, especially in Iraq. Maybe those in Turkey decided to go against their school and ignore that part, but it is a thing most Shafis do. Multiple Turks used to post about Kurds doing FGM in the past on TA to show how backwards they were.

    In Indonesia, around half do it if I'm not mistaken. So many don't do it despite it being mandatory. Guess if there are Muslims that drink alcohol, there can exist Shafis that don't do FGM.

    I looked it up on Wikipedia and they claimed that Kurds in southern Turkey do it but their sources were talking about Iraqi Kurds and said evidence of the practice in Turkey is scarce. So FGM among Shafis in Turkey probably doesn't happen. Maybe because Turkey may have outlawed it or the Kurds there are less religious compared to elsewhere.

    This is what it says in the Shafi manual on the topic:
    It is not well known and I've never heard such a thing happened. It is not something happens in Turkey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Don't know about those, but if true that doesn't automatically mean that all Christians would have behaved same ways ... what comes to bans. Europeans behaves quite diferently even today what comes to common ''rules'' of EU.

    As the slavery was allowed in Russia quite long.
    * 1723 ban to slavery markets (plus all house slaves => house serfs)
    * 1861 abolishes serfdom

    1780 slavery abolished in the Crimean Khanate by Russians (after end of state Crimean Khanate
    1441 - 1783).
    Like you said most of slaves came from Russia, Poland, Lithuania etc. I wonder what has been influence for that ''operation'' as Russians ended their own slavery markets just 57 years earlier. And realeased their serdoms just 1861.

    Most likely nobody has risen fingers up as seeing slavery caravans ending into the south many hundreds years.... to Crimean Khanate.
    It was common legal practice to apply laws only inside specific domain. Once abroad the laws weren't working anymore and citizen were free to do as they pleased. So all Christians were free to get involved into slavery so long as they keep it out of their homecountry. Doesn't mean everyone was doing it but many did.

    As for slavery in Russia you have no idea what you talking about. You're mixing up slavery and serfdom which are two very different institutions. You also totally missing the fact Russia has never had slavery they way it was in Rome or in Asia. Up to 16th century vast majority of common folk in Russia were free and even after establishment of serfdom large part of population remained free. Not sure if you're able to comprehend these facts as they don't fit your picture of 'evil Russians'.

    That 'most likely' of yours is excellent demonstration of your stupidity and ignorance. The very Cossacks you hate so much have gained their fame among common folk exactly by protecting them from Muslim slavers. They regularly raided Ottoman and Persian coasts, even reached Istanbul few times. Captured Kaffa just to liberate slaves. We have something about 500 years of persistent history fighting against slavery, more than anyone else in Europe. Read some actual historical materials before you show your stupidity on public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    Saudis don't practice FGM, it's not an Islamic practice, it's an old tradition which survived even after spread of Islam, those who used to pratice FGM still do, and claim it's an islamic practice, while those who never did FGM also never adopted it.
    The point is most of Muslims of Russia culturally are not same as Muslims in other places despite having some similar practices. Same as most of Turkic speaking people in Siberia are vastly different from Turkic speaking people of Anatolia or Caucasus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    The point is most of Muslims of Russia culturally are not same as Muslims in other places despite having some similar practices. Same as most of Turkic speaking people in Siberia are vastly different from Turkic speaking people of Anatolia or Caucasus.
    Muslims aren’t the same all around the world. So this isn’t a new information. I don’t understand why everybody think that. And Siberian Turkics are different to all other Turkics, not just to those one from Anatolia and Caucasus.

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    It is common for russian women to look for a turkish husband. There are hundreds of thousands of these marriages.

    Russian women, eastern women in general, are famous for looking husbands anywhere in the world.

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    Everyone should convert to Christianity, Its much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    It is common for russian women to look for a turkish husband. There are hundreds of thousands of these marriages.

    Russian women, eastern women in general, are famous for looking husbands anywhere in the world.
    Why do you say it, Carlito?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karol Klačansky View Post
    Everyone should convert to Christianity, Its much better.
    After seeing German-Slavic, Hungarian-Slavic and Greek-Slavic disputes I don't think Christianity can solve problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    After seeing German-Slavic, Hungarian-Slavic and Greek-Slavic disputes I don't think Christianity can solve problems.
    Christianity is the reason why Europe progressed while the islamic world stayed in the stone ages. Even a pan asian conference came to the conclusion that Christianity was the reason why europe dominated the world and not asia.

    Europeans not being able to curb conflicts is due to a lack of listening to Christianity, which does have the answer, unlike Islam where when you practice it more faithfully you become more violent and less moral. Christianity is the only faith that has answers which are moral, lets not make up lies. Islam was founded by a war lord who married a 6 year old and slept with her when she was 9, he murdered husbands and stole their wives. Jesus did absolutely none of this, lets not make up stories.
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