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    .22 lr is a very deadly cartridge.The infamous school massacres in Finland,Jokela and Kauhajoki were executed using .22 caliber pistols.

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    WW1 LEE ENFIELD MK 1 CARBINE, 1899


    The Lee Enfield Mk1 with Enfield rifling, followed the Lee Metford range of rifles with Metford rifling.


    WW1 BRITISH LEE METFORD RIFLE MK 1*, 1899

    The first magazine Rifle to be adopted by the British Army .
    The barrel is bored using the Metford type of Rifling. It used the new .303 Cartridge adopted in 1888. Dated 1889, originally a Mk1. This one has been converted to a Mk1 star. Complete with Bayonet Item A1146.



    WW1 LEE ENFIELD No1 MK 3* RIFLE, 1918

    British No.1 Mk III* Lee-Enfield Rifle, SMLE (Short Magazine Lee Enfield) or short rifle with magazine.

    Adopted by the British Military on January 26, 1907.

    Adapted from an original design by James Paris Lee and the Royal Arms Factory at Enfield, England.

    Mk III refers to the third incarnation of the No.1 rifle.

    This rifle was also manufactured in England, Australia and India. The Mk III was used in both WWI and WW2.

    Probably one of the fastest cycling bolt action rifles made for military use. The rifle pictured was manufactured at Enfield in 1918, in England


    WWII LEE ENFIELD No 4 Mk2 RIFLE, 1945

    The No4 Enfield rifle originally the No1 Mk6 renamed the No4, replaced the SMLE No1 Mk3 during WW11.
    As a standard-issue infantry rifle, it remained in British service well into the early 1960s and is still found in service in the armed forces of some Commonwealth Nations.

    The Lee-Enfield was chambered for the .303 British cartridge, and featured a ten-round box magazine which was loaded manually from the top, either one round at a time, or by means of five-round chargers. The Lee-Enfield series superseded the earlier Martini-Henry, Martini-Enfield, and Lee-Metford rifles, and although officially replaced in the UK with the L1A1 SLR in 1957, it continues to see official service in a number of British Commonwealth nations to the present day,notably with the Indian Police,and is the longest-serving military bolt-action rifle still in official service.
    The rifle shown is a No4 Mk2 April 1950 made at Fazakerley Liverpool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Germanicus View Post
    WW1 LEE ENFIELD MK 1 CARBINE, 1899


    The Lee Enfield Mk1 with Enfield rifling, followed the Lee Metford range of rifles with Metford rifling.


    WW1 BRITISH LEE METFORD RIFLE MK 1*, 1899

    The first magazine Rifle to be adopted by the British Army .
    The barrel is bored using the Metford type of Rifling. It used the new .303 Cartridge adopted in 1888. Dated 1889, originally a Mk1. This one has been converted to a Mk1 star. Complete with Bayonet Item A1146.



    WW1 LEE ENFIELD No1 MK 3* RIFLE, 1918

    British No.1 Mk III* Lee-Enfield Rifle, SMLE (Short Magazine Lee Enfield) or short rifle with magazine.

    Adopted by the British Military on January 26, 1907.

    Adapted from an original design by James Paris Lee and the Royal Arms Factory at Enfield, England.

    Mk III refers to the third incarnation of the No.1 rifle.

    This rifle was also manufactured in England, Australia and India. The Mk III was used in both WWI and WW2.

    Probably one of the fastest cycling bolt action rifles made for military use. The rifle pictured was manufactured at Enfield in 1918, in England


    WWII LEE ENFIELD No 4 Mk2 RIFLE, 1945

    The No4 Enfield rifle originally the No1 Mk6 renamed the No4, replaced the SMLE No1 Mk3 during WW11.
    As a standard-issue infantry rifle, it remained in British service well into the early 1960s and is still found in service in the armed forces of some Commonwealth Nations.

    The Lee-Enfield was chambered for the .303 British cartridge, and featured a ten-round box magazine which was loaded manually from the top, either one round at a time, or by means of five-round chargers. The Lee-Enfield series superseded the earlier Martini-Henry, Martini-Enfield, and Lee-Metford rifles, and although officially replaced in the UK with the L1A1 SLR in 1957, it continues to see official service in a number of British Commonwealth nations to the present day,notably with the Indian Police,and is the longest-serving military bolt-action rifle still in official service.
    The rifle shown is a No4 Mk2 April 1950 made at Fazakerley Liverpool.
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    As an addenda to an earlier post I made in the "Post a picture of your smellies" thread...

    I own 7 No 4 Mk2's, all built in Liverpool during the course of 1949. I had originally bought 9, but sold the 2 built by Savage Arms in Chicopee, MA to a fellow veteran who collects them. The original intent was to equip myself and some friends who wanted to participate in WW2 re-enactments as a squad of Americans who had enlisted in Canada...
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    I've owned a few Enfield's No 1 Mk 4's & No 3 Mk 1's After I shot up a couple cases of .303 Headstamped 1900 & 1903 I sold them. I am a FFL holder, so selling 'em after I've shop 'em is what I do.

    I carry a S&W 3913 everywhere I go, but my favorite is a Colt Trooper Mk IV 6" .357 magnum. I've taken a few whitetails with it. My best shot ever was about 120 meters back of the head running on a doe a companion had wounded. I don't consider such a shot a good idea, but the animal was hit, the Colt was what I had, and I was the guy in a position to take the shot.

    My two favorite rifles are a Browning BLR in .308 that I've taken many deer with, and a Browning 1885 falling block in .270 win. I've shot 5/8" groups with the lever-action at 100 yards (Nosler BT 150gr over 46.5gr WW748 @2765fps). The 1885 is just gorgeous! I'm the only person who has ever fired it. It will group under 1" at 200 yards on a perfect day. My wife has a Ruger Mini-30 in 7.62x39. It won't do better than a 2" group at 100 yards, but that is perfectly good for a 150 yard deer rifle. It doubles as my zombie apocalypse weapon when equipped with 30 round mags.

    I just got myself a Savage 12VLPSS in .223 it's left hand bolt with a heavy stainless fluted barrel and a laminated stock. I won't tell you how accurate it is, because you'd just call me a liar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2DREZQ View Post
    I just got myself a Savage 12VLPSS in .223 it's left hand bolt with a heavy stainless fluted barrel and a laminated stock. I won't tell you how accurate it is, because you'd just call me a liar.

    No sir, everyone who posts on this thread is an enthusiast and wants to learn and be educated by people who know guns, you are exactly what this thread needs. up
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2DREZQ View Post
    I've owned a few Enfield's (snippage)

    I just got myself a Savage 12VLPSS in .223 it's left hand bolt with a heavy stainless fluted barrel and a laminated stock. I won't tell you how accurate it is, because you'd just call me a liar.
    I love the Enfield as the workhorse it is. I just shoot the Remington 180 gr factory loads.

    As the owner of a standard, birch-stocked Savage 110 in 30-06, the accuracy of which I know...I'd say that you are regularly putting 10 rounds in a business card at 200 yards.

    My wife's favorites are her 2 Ruger Mini-14's, one for iron sight work the other for scope work. Her rifle for sub-MOA accuracy is a NEF Handi-rifle heavy barrel single shot in .223.
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    Last week a friend of mine let me try his Colt King Cobra.Very beautiful and with a great trigger,extraordinarily accurate too.My 586 is no slouch,but talk about special guns.I'd love Colt to start making those great revolvers again(with all those cool snake names,Python,Diamondback,Anaconda...much better than just numbers!) I'm sure they'd sell quite a few.The used ones I've seen command pretty high prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhiannon View Post
    You are probably right. If my husband wanted to teach me how to shoot one, I would try it....but as of right now, I have never shot a gun before, and they just scare the hell out of me. Plus, we have a very young son, and I've heard too many stories about children getting their hands on dad or mom's gun and getting themselves killed...or someone else.

    So, while I'd be willing to learn how to shoot one, I am totally AGAINST keeping them in a home with young children. Thankfully, hubs understands and keeps his guns under lock and key
    Sorry if I reply to this a while after it has been posted.

    I'm a member in a shooting range myself, and it is common that people not familiar with firearms have a huge apprehension of them. I have yet to see a person who hasn't overcome this fear after having been taught about them at the range and allowed to fire some shots.

    In my humble opinion, at the very least you should be able to secure all weapons in your house, even if they are supposed to remain in the gun cabinet : safe handling of weapon, putting the security on & removing ammunition. Being able to do so is having control over the weapons, instead of having your fear of them paralysing you.

    There was a time in France (1880's) when rifle instruction was part of the boy's school curriculum. As a civic education teacher (High School teacher of History in France are also teaching Geography and Civic Education), I believe it would be a sound thing to reinstate.

    I still remember how during my military service the handling and shooting of firearms replaced a lot of wrong assumptions with certitudes and responsability for all of us.

    At our shooting range we often happen to train teenagers, who are glad for the training and experience. The first things they learn are about security and safe handling of firearms and ammunition. Often, they are stunned by their level of ignorance : they thought they knew it all from movies and games, and then they realized these media were outright lying to them.

    The detonation of real weapons, the recoil and other factors (aiming, dispertion etc.) is absolutely unlike what they believed a firearm to be.

    In our society, a lot of movies and games are about weapons and violence ; it serves as an outlet for stress and as an ersatz of power, in a society where people are increasingly powerless over the things that matter. I believe a citizen, as a decisiontaker over himself and society, should know from experience what firearms are about, and thus not let himself intoxicate by the medias' false promises. Conscription used to do that, not anymore.

    As an annex to the topic, I also believe too many people in our societies grow up without having a clear notion of death and its irreversibility, whereas in any rural society people have a clear notion of it (not only it's dead but it's your stomach). It's another debate, but if people realized what death is about they wouldn't be able to enjoy the media's "recreative" depiction of the use of firearms against "villains".

    Just my two cents worth.

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