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    Question Celto-Germanic civilization versus Germanic civilization

    So it seems to be a fundamental underlying axiom , sometimes, maybe often, unspoken assumption on forums here that Germanics are superior.

    England is to the West Germanics what Iceland to the North Germanics which is also to say that they both have significant amounts of Celtic DNA. Britain had an empire ( alot of Scots were some of the most enthusiastic supporters of the empire) and has produced most of the accomplishments in Europe within the arts and sciences (which includes the Scots, Welsh and Cornish).

    Also, while Scandinavia is a nice place to live if I had a choice between living in Sweden etc.. or Iceland I would choose Iceland.


    Celto-Germanics also seem good at Democracy unlike other peoples *cough* *cough* the Germans. I'd say both the French and Germans are currently FAKING Democracy and would prefer a dictator but America and Britain keep them pressured to be Democracies.

    Are Celto-Germanic civilizations superior to Germanic ones ?

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    There is an argument to be said that UK democracy isn't representative, with the first past the post system, house of Lords etc. The Parliamentary systems in the US, Canada and Australia, NZ has improved on it I think.

    I would definitely say that the Scandanavian sysyem, with everyone happy to pay taxes for the good of society and proportional representation, is the ideal though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davystayn View Post
    There is an argument to be said that UK democracy isn't representative, with the first past the post system, house of Lords etc. The Parliamentary systems in the US, Canada and Australia, NZ has improved on it I think.
    Yeah, but you just named the AngloSphere basically in the latter part. Unfortunately, I know more about UK history than the current state of affairs. However, I don't know of any innovative Democratic breathroughs like the Glorious Revolution in Britain. Also, America technically does not have parliament and I've noticed that as America has become less Anglo-Saxon (English and lowland Scottish) it has become less democratic .e.g. the executive branch now has out of proportion power in comparison to its checks : the judicial and legislative branches.

    Only Anglo-Saxon countries can do democracy. The natural state of human society is despotism. If you tally up all the human lives that have ever been lived on this planet under organized systems of government, no more than five per cent were lived under consensual systems. Even to get up to five per cent, you have to include places like ancient Athens and Tudor England, which wouldn’t pass muster as “democratic” by modern standards. In the last couple of centuries, practically all consensual systems have been Anglo-Saxon. Other cultures can fake it for a few decades, as France, Germany, and Japan are currently doing, but their hearts aren’t really in it and they will swoon gratefully into the arms of a fascist dictator when one comes along.---John Derbyshire

    I would definitely say that the Scandanavian sysyem, with everyone happy to pay taxes for the good of society and proportional representation, is the ideal though
    The Icelandic system is nice too if not better. As far as I know they have a proportional representation system and a good quality of life. Seems like Sweden is becoming the middle east or something with immigrants but I haven't look at the math on it.

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    There's no such thing as Celto-Germanic civilisation, a culture is either Celtic or Germanic, or neither.

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    The world's most democratic countries.







    https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...acy-countries/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    There's no such thing as Celto-Germanic civilisation, a culture is either Celtic or Germanic, or neither.
    The U.K as a whole is Celto-Germanic I don't know how anyone can say it is not. It's true the culture of England is Germanic , however, liberals think culture is the end all be all. A good example of that would be Noah Harrari's book "Sapiens". However, there is an argument to be made that culture is an extended phenotype of the underlying genotype of the population(s) (demographic(s)).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    The U.K as a whole is Celto-Germanic I don't know how anyone can say it is not. It's true the culture of England is Germanic , however, liberals think culture is the end all be all. A good example of that would be Noah Harrari's book "Sapiens". However, there is an argument to be made that culture is an extended phenotype of the underlying genotype of the population(s) (demographic(s)).
    It's silly to categorise modern European nations based on ethno-linguistic groups from 2000-3000 years ago, rather than the identifiable groups that exist today. Britain is only Celto-Germanic in heritage and ancestry (amongst other influences), but the British and arguably the white English speaking world is one identifiable cultural block, distinct from Celtic culture and distinct from continental Germanics.

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    The stats above deal prove my point, I guess as they are countries with smaller populations this may prove something.

    The Civil War which led to Cromwell's brief dictatorship brought an increasingly benign royalty back, so this sorted out some sort of figurehead, everyday figurehead plus parliament relationship which offered stability, though not everyone was offered the vote until the 20th century.

    Australia also seems to go through PMs every 6months as well

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    Yes there is no celto-germanic civilization but if you mean genetic then celto-germanic by far. I have no problem with Scandinavia but it cannot be compared with England or Germany.

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