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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    You sound like a Nazi officer who is about to commit a genocide

    Nobody asks for a compromise, just stop glorifying wars that victimized others.
    Because you referred to the so-called lack of empathy which Turks supposedly have for Armenian Genocide, Greeks, Kurdish separatists on the day Armenians attacked the Azerbaijani pipeline supplying Turkey in gas, and far away from Karabakh.

    From a historical point of view, Turks are right to have no remorse for foiling the attempts of their genocidal neighbours aimed at them.

    Armenians siding with Russian Imperial forces and attacking Ottoman/Turkish armies from the rear during WWI was a treacherous act aiming army communication lines, in addition to their large scale ethnic cleansing attempts with a view to create a greater Armenia. Actually, the enemies of Turks were still using the elements in Islam promoting weakness and compromises, such as excessive mercy, until when some serious German officers asked Turks to solve the Armenian question with serious methods in order to avoid having the eastern front put at risk.
    And Armenians were simply deported to Middle Eastern regions. Some of them died in the journey? That is sad, but it was better than Turks being massacred in their own villages.

    Greeks also showed the same hypocrite treacherous behavior. They waited the end of WWI to steal Turkish and Bulgarian lands by massacring Turks and Slavs in an effort to have entire regions emptied for themselves. By throwing their invading armies into the sea (together with 5th column, Troyan horses within inside the borders) was proper reaction.

    There is no Kurdish issue in Turkey. There were even Kurdish PM's in Turkey. How are they in difficult situation? Kurdish question was boosted by FETO Gulen group in 2000's in line with commands they were receiving from US and Tel Aviv. Kurdish issue is an artificially created issue, through espionage and foreign intelligence efforts by the enemies of Turkey.

    Therefore, we can conclude that Turks showed mere human resilience, which came from the natural instinct to survive.
    There is absolutely no reason for the Turks to feel any kind of remorse.

    And of course, there is of course no Armenian problem, Kurdish problem, Greek problem in Turkey. Those non-existing issues are pushed within the scope of an agenda aiming at the Turkish state.

    Look since 2015.... How the PKK terror attacks shaking Turkey every other day and all the ''Kurdish Tragedy'' promoted on FETO tv, or overall in the medias 24-7 stopped all of a sudden. 2015 to 2020 have been the most calm era for the whole Southeastern Turkey since 1975.
    It is not difficult to guess that it was thanks to the silencing of the enemies of the Turkish state .
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    Duplicate of the post above, posted accidentally.
    Last edited by kundur; 07-18-2020 at 10:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    there was never any consciousness of Iranic identity among Hungarians.
    That's not true, most hungarians think they are descedants of iranic scythians ("szittya" in hungarian), it appeared the medieval chronicles too. Of course the reality and myths are two different thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    most hungarians think they are descedants of iranic scythians ("szittya" in hungarian)
    Do they really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Do they really?
    An average conservative person do that.

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    Stears parents knew nothing about Iranics, Turkics or whatever, they knew their language is Finno Ugric from Urals but they think Huns are related people to Hungarians.
    I noticed lot of older people consider Huns their ancestors but it's not connected to any meta ethnicity, they have no clue about that.

    They'd say this: Hungarians are Finno-Ugric/Uralic people. Huns are their brother tribe.
    Hungarians are not Turkic nor Iranic nor Slavic nor Germanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    That's not true, most hungarians think they are descedants of iranic scythians ("szittya" in hungarian), it appeared the medieval chronicles too. Of course the reality and myths are two different thing.
    Most? Are you sure it wasn't just some of the elite in the Middle Ages that claimed that (similar to Poland's case)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Most? Are you sure it wasn't just some of the elite in the Middle Ages that claimed that (similar to Poland's case)?
    Since i was born in Hungary and i live here at the begining, yes i'm pretty sure Scythians are one of the most important part of hungarian identity.
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    The Kabars were not Kharzemians, but Khazar renegade. The Kharzemians were an Iranian people who had shifted to Kipchak Turkic, and later they used the Turkic language only for administration and military. Well Persian was their official language. The Kharzemian were so Persianized in culture and traditions, they even began to rival the Abbasid Caliphate. When the Mongols acted the Kharzem, the Shah asked for reinforcements from the Abbasids and the Ayyubids, they both refused, due to an Arab-Persian dispute. The rest is history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    The Kabars were not Kharzemians, but Khazar renegade. The Kharzemians were an Iranian people who had shifted to Kipchak Turkic, and later they used the Turkic language only for administration and military. Well Persian was their official language. The Kharzemian were so Persianized in culture and traditions, they even began to rival the Abbasid Caliphate. When the Mongols acted the Kharzem, the Shah asked for reinforcements from the Abbasids and the Ayyubids, they both refused, due to an Arab-Persian dispute. The rest is history.
    The Kabars were Kharezmians, because their self name was Káliz from the name of the capital of Kharezm: Kal.

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