Armenians and Georgians; Where can they fit in Europe, and can they pass as Levantines?

[Sikeliot]

I met many Armenians in London. They have quite a distinctive look.

You could also have added Turkey. Considerable overlap there, I think.

Too obvious.

[Han Cholo]

Too obvious.

Well, it's the most factual. Otherwise this thread isn't very scientifical.

[Transhumanist]

I left out Turks, Iranians, Assyrians, Azeris because those are pretty much all a given.

Are Azeris predominantly Armenoid? Same for Iranians? Turks, yes. Particularly those from E and C Anatolia. I would be surprised if the "Anatolia" component from Dienekes' "bat" calculator registered greater than 60-65% for populations with significant Indo-Iranian ancestry. Presumably the elevated Dodecad "East European," "West European," and "South Asian" would translate to reduced "Anatolia" (Armenian), and increased "Balkans" and "Turkic." At least for the Iranians.

[Sikeliot]

It surprises me that there is not much more of an Eastern European component in Armenians and Georgians.. the Caucasus must have been a good barrier.

[Foxy]

I think that some of them can pass a dark Russians, other have a less slavic vibe and a more Mediterranean one and could pass, in my opinion, mostly in Cyprus like a mix of Levantine Turks and white Greeks. Others, and probably the most, have a very caucasian look and look nothing but what they are. Iranians, in my opinion, are too dark and arabid. Turkish means more or less nothing: it's not an ethnicity.

[Han Cholo]

I think that some of them can pass a dark Russians, other have a less slavic vibe and a more Mediterranean one and could pass, in my opinion, mostly in Cyprus like a mix of Levantine Turks and white Greeks. Others, and probably the most, have a very caucasian look and look nothing but what they are. Iranians, in my opinion, are too dark and arabid. Turkish means more or less nothing: it's not an ethnicity.

Turks are not Levantine. They have basically no significant overlap with Levantine populations.

[Foxy]

Turks are not Levantine. They have basically no significant overlap with Levantine populations.

This sounds new to me... Sources?

[d3cimat3d]

psuedo-Slavic looking - they are the cheap imitation - knock off version

[hajduk]

Most of the people cannot fit even in Cyprus

[Han Cholo]

This sounds new to me... Sources?

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Does not include Turkey. Turkey, Armenia are the Anatolian mainlanders and overlap very closely with Northern Mesopotamians and Iranians. Turks don't look much like Lebanese or Palestineans.