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    Default Hunter-Farmer-Herder in Euro pop unscaled G25 post your result

    Davidski made a hunter vs farmer vs herder mixture model for present-day European populations.

    I translate it into a G25 model.

    Please use the unscaled coordinates

    Source:
    HUN_Koros_N_HG,0.0121,0.0123,0.0478,0.0478,0.0417, 0.0151,0.0064,0.0158,0.0352,0.0038,-0.0032,-0.009,0.0099,-0.0024,0.0211,0.0348,0.0141,0.0047,-0.0066,0.0366,0.049,0.0086,-0.033,-0.1033,0.0109
    TUR_Barcin_N,0.0103318,0.0177364,0.0009364,-0.0313182,0.0165864,-0.01735,-0.0018545,-0.0030045,0.0177136,0.0443091,0.0049091,0.0079273,-0.0157773,0.0003409,-0.0309318,-0.0076864,0.0178773,0.0015682,0.0108955,-0.0077955,-0.0114,0.0046682,-0.0033455,-0.0026273,-0.0036273
    Yamnaya_UKR,0.0105,0.0086,0.012,0.03425,-0.0092,0.01525,0.0036,-0.0015,-0.0255,-0.03885,0.00015,0.00295,-0.0029,-0.0147,0.0238,0.0081,-2e-04,-0.0091,-0.0044,0.0019,-0.00225,0.00035,-0.0076,0.016,0.0026

    Basically it's most useful within Euro populations.

    Please post your result.

    'Ours' (mour is dialect for mother, voar for father)

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    Target: Creoda
    Distance: 3.6342% / 0.03634238
    58.0 Yamnaya_UKR
    34.4 TUR_Barcin_N
    7.6 HUN_Koros_N_HG

    Target: CreodaMum
    Distance: 2.3416% / 0.02341568
    55.4 Yamnaya_UKR
    34.6 TUR_Barcin_N
    10.0 HUN_Koros_N_HG

    Target: CreodaDad
    Distance: 3.8905% / 0.03890480
    58.6 Yamnaya_UKR
    33.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    8.4 HUN_Koros_N_HG
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    I do need one more component for East Eurasian.

    Target: Kaspias
    Distance: 2.1615% / 0.02161519
    45.2 Yamnaya_UKR
    44.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    10.8 MNG_North_N
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Why Yamnaya and not Sredny Stog is used for steppe? Yamnaya did not contribute to majority of Europeans.
    I'll post my results in a minute.

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    Target: Stearsolina
    Distance: 2.7393% / 0.02739284

    43.2 Yamnaya_UKR
    42.8 TUR_Barcin_N
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    My man's results

    Target: Stears
    Distance: 2.6128% / 0.02612782

    52.0 Yamnaya_UKR
    40.6 TUR_Barcin_N
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    Yes, Southern/Eastern Europeans will need more components.
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    My dad (mostly Russian)

    Target: dad_unscaled
    Distance: 3.9903% / 0.03990308
    56.0 Yamnaya_UKR
    32.6 TUR_Barcin_N
    11.4 HUN_Koros_N_HG

    Me (Russian + 1/8th Jewish)

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    Distance: 3.9462% / 0.03946193
    48.6 Yamnaya_UKR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Yes, Southern/Eastern Europeans will need more components.
    I want to keep it simple, may be for the east this component:

    RUS_Baikal_BA:GLZ003,0.0034,-0.0363,0.026,0.0062,-0.0347,-0.015,0.0007,0.0027,0.0048,-0.0042,0.0039,-0.001,0.0024,-0.0177,-0.0032,-0.0047,-0.0066,-0.0014,0.0056,0.0147,-0.026,0.0092,-0.0028,-0.0053,-0.0029

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Why Yamnaya and not Sredny Stog is used for steppe? Yamnaya did not contribute to majority of Europeans.
    I'll post my results in a minute.
    This is what Davidski said about it:
    For instance, UKR_Yamnaya generally produced much stronger statistical fits than a very similar set of Yamnaya samples from the Caspian steppe (more precisely, from the Samara region in Russia). However, this might well be an artifact, due to very specific characteristics of these few ancient individuals. Larger sample sets would be welcome, especially from Yamnaya sites in Ukraine.
    For everyone level playing field in this model.

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