Greek regional Eurogenes k13 averages

**vbnetkhio** · 09-15-2020, 04:36 PM

Mingle and I collected 165 academic and non-academic Greek Eurogenes k13 results and grouped them into regional averages.
if you have any additional Greek results which could improve these averages feel free to post them.

map of the regions used:

PCA of Greeks and neighbouring popualtions

PCA of Greek regions:

averages:

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individual samples:

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**vbnetkhio** · 09-15-2020, 04:51 PM

before this i though Greeks are much more Slavic.

on a pretty representative sample, the northernmost outliers are still less Baltic then average Macedonian or Bulgarian.

**Kaspias** · 09-15-2020, 04:56 PM

Can you also provide the same components for Dodecad K12b? There is only one Mainlander Greek sample there.

**Leto** · 09-15-2020, 05:03 PM

Very good. Obviously Greeks are less "Slavic" than Bulgarians. Though they're still nothing like Turks either (a common misconception).

Originally Posted by Kaspias

Can you also provide the same components for Dodecad K12b? There is only one Mainlander Greek sample there.

Yes, I second this.

**Chris596** · 09-15-2020, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

before this i though Greeks are much more Slavic.

on a pretty representative sample, the northernmost outliers are still less Baltic then average Macedonian or Bulgarian.

How can Greeks be ,,Slavic'' ? Seriously. Maybe in the northern part of the country they have significant influence?

**vbnetkhio** · 09-15-2020, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Very good. Obviously Greeks are less "Slavic" than Bulgarians. Though they're still nothing like Turks either (a common misconception).

i didn't think they were Slavic on average. but i thought mainland Greece was full of 25% baltic people. and tehre isn't a single one here.

**Leto** · 09-15-2020, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Chris596

How can Greeks be ,,Slavic'' ? Seriously. Maybe in the northern part of the country they have significant influence?

Yeah. I'm Slavic myself and not Greek but I don't like it when some people (not vbnet) are trying to take away or deny the Hellenic heritage of the Greeks.

**Deusex99** · 09-15-2020, 05:14 PM

You missed Greeks from Cyprus, Trabzon, Central Anatolia,...

**vbnetkhio** · 09-15-2020, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Chris596

How can Greeks be ,,Slavic'' ? Seriously. Maybe in the northern part of the country they have significant influence?

most of Mainland Greece, even Peloponnese, was conquered and settled by Slavs in the 7th century, but they were then supposedly all expelled by the Byzantines, except in the most northern regions.
in the north there were Macedonians and Bulgarians until recently, in 1918-1946 hundreds thousands of them left or were expelled.

**vbnetkhio** · 09-15-2020, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Kaspias

Can you also provide the same components for Dodecad K12b? There is only one Mainlander Greek sample there.

most of these are acadmic samples i ran manually trough admixture studio. it's a long and painful process...

i can send you the raw datas if you are interested.