The Anglo Vice: Why Male Homosexuality is so Prevalent in Anglo-Saxon Countries

[Magister Eckhart]

Fair enough. Still, France is rightly deemed the 'authentic home of anti-racism':

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...4&postcount=17

Still, I think de Gobineau and de Toqueville deserve their due: they recognised the Negro as a savage beast, and while one understood he belonged in servitude and the other tried to elevate him, they both knew with what they were dealing. I think the French have produced noble souls, even since the Revolution, though the present state of the French nation, which is ruled by the French mob, is deplorable. All good Frenchmen were aristocrats and all good Frenchmen were eventually put to the guillotine or shunned by the spiritual pygmies and peasants that today run the country.

[Loddfafner]

The organized gay movement began in the 1860s in Hannover, a state that had adopted the Napoleonic Code complete with the absence of a sodomy law. Some local rump rangers were concerned that a unified Germany might end up with the rather severe Prussian code that, despite the antics of Frederick II, had a notably severe law against man-to-man penis jausting.

[Ouistreham]

The French police still had a battery of vague laws against lascivious conduct to work with, and so homosexuality remained effectively banned in France.

More exactly: in all cases involving sexual offences or crime (public misconduct, inappropriate sollicitations, prostitution, assault, rape etc.) French judges routinely used to see homosexuality as an aggravating circumstance. This was formalized by law in 1960 with minimal penalties being doubled in case of "indecent exposure" when of homosexual nature.

But — somewhat contradictorily — homosexuality was still officially defined by law as a mental disease. This was abolished in the early 80's.

All good Frenchmen were aristocrats and all good Frenchmen were eventually put to the guillotine or shunned by the spiritual pygmies and peasants that today run the country.

Absolutely wrong. Ridiculously wrong. The only aristocrats that were executed were mostly degenerate parasites. Small provincial nobilty with real military traditions enthusiastically joined th revolutionary and Napoleonic armies.

Besides, French civil wars of 1792-1795 were far less bloody than the English and American civil wars (just in case you'd forgotten).

the French didn't have enough decency and respect to occupy Germany with their own troops, they used third- and fourth-stringers. That's an insult any German would be angry about, regardless of how they felt about Negroes.

Urban legend. Colonial troops only made up 4% of the French army (including European settlers in North Africa).

The contribution of coloured soldiers during WW-1 was exagerated for various contradictory reasons:
• French colonialist propaganda: the government wanted to make believe that Arabs and Niggers were devout servants of France.
• Anti-colonialist propaganda (still active), who wanted to prove that without colonial troops France wouldn't have won WW-1 and hence that the coloured had a right to get independant.
• Antiracist propaganda (still fiercely active): what could we do without our beloved multicultural diversity?
• Racist propaganda (especially in Germany): the French want to Africanize Europe!

Actually, African troops were pretty much unusable in WW-1. Inefficient, and unable to stand any sustained effort. Fieldmarshal Foch said: "Ces gens ne sont pas faits pour la guerre européenne" ("Those people arent' fit for European warfare").

Meister Eckhardt, ich hätte von dich besseres erwartet. Du bist also nicht so schlau wie ich dachte.

[Tel Errant]

You just said they weren't the first now you are saying they were.

I did it on purpose because Joe's formulation omitted the context in which it's been done, you have to consider it within the whole humanist revolutionary package.

In any case, the idea that high civilization equates to tolerance of minorities would likely be contested by the ancient Greeks if they were alive today.

The ancient Greeks did better, democracy gave equal political rights to the non aristocratic majority.

[Magister Eckhart]

Absolutely wrong. Ridiculously wrong. The only aristocrats that were executed were mostly degenerate parasites. Small provincial nobilty with real military traditions enthusiastically joined th revolutionary and Napoleonic armies.

Besides, French civil wars of 1792-1795 were far less bloody than the English and American civil wars (just in case you'd forgotten).

All anyone needs to do to know that you are slandering the names of decent nobles because of a few bad apples is look at the trials of of the King and Queen, who were murdered both illegally and illegitimately by a mob, which was the only constituent force behind the whole revolution.

Vendée: l'héritage de la liberté-égalité-fraternité.

The best of French society barely survived the peasant revolt in 1789. I sometimes wonder how de Maistre survived.

Urban legend. Colonial troops only made up 4% of the French army (including European settlers in North Africa).

The contribution of coloured soldiers during WW-1 was exagerated for various contradictory reasons:
• French colonialist propaganda: the government wanted to make believe that Arabs and Niggers were devout servants of France.
• Anti-colonialist propaganda (still active), who wanted to prove that without colonial troops France wouldn't have won WW-1 and hence that the coloured had a right to get independant.
• Antiracist propaganda (still fiercely active): what could we do without our beloved multicultural diversity?
• Racist propaganda (especially in Germany): the French want to Africanize Europe!

Actually, African troops were pretty much unusable in WW-1. Inefficient, and unable to stand any sustained effort. Fieldmarshal Foch said: "Ces gens ne sont pas faits pour la guerre européenne" ("Those people arent' fit for European warfare").

I'm not talking about during the War -- or did you forget that at the time of surrender German troops still had their boots firmly planted on French soil? I'm talking about the evidenced occupation of German territory throughout the 1920s by French colonial troops, which is a documented historical fact.

Meister Eckhardt, ich hätte von dich besseres erwartet. Du bist also nicht so schlau wie ich dachte.

Ich brauche keinen Anklang von einem Franzose noch will ich es.

[Joe McCarthy]

The ancient Greeks did better, democracy gave equal political rights to the non aristocratic majority.

Even the Athenians practiced slavery, and indeed their high civilization was probably based on it. What's really interesting here though is that even as helots were subjected to ritual slaughter, they still had more privileges than non-Greek chattel slaves. Is this the high civilization of minority tolerance? I think not.

[Tel Errant]

Even the Athenians practiced slavery

Like all antic societies.

What's really interesting here though is that even as helots were subjected to ritual slaughter, they still had more privileges than non-Greek chattel slaves. Is this the high civilization of minority tolerance? I think not.

What is really interesting isn't the privileges of the spartan helots but the fact that Ancient Greece was the most advanced antic civilisation in matter of civil rights. Minority tolerance is indeed one of the expressions of social justice, and democracy gave equal rights to all the citizens politically and before the law.

[Turkey]

Did white people invent slavery to build stuff?

[European blood]

Did white people invent slavery to build stuff?

Slavery in ancient cultures was known to occur in civilizations as old as Sumer, and it was found in every civilization, including Ancient Egypt, Ancient Nubia, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, Ancient Greece, Rome ...

[gandalf]

Slavery is nothing but the workers condition when money didn't exist .