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Suspicions Raised About Nationalist Demonstration on 8th October…And Neo-Nazi Named and Shamed
http://englishdefenceleague.org/susp...ed-and-shamed/
What a disgusting article.
EDL is Zionist to the core.We have recently learned that a ‘Nationalist Demonstration’ is to be held on 8th October in the North of England.
Unfortunately, we have also learned that many far Right groups, including the National Front, Combat 18, Blood and Honour, and members of the white supremacist Stormfront forum plan to attend.
Whilst we are unable to confirm whether the organisers are involved with these groups, we are concerned that the far Right may be looking to emulate the success of the EDL by adopting our strategies for their own use, and by enticing EDL members to attend their demonstrations under the illusion of supporting our aims.
We must therefore make it incredibly clear that this demonstration is in no way endorsed by the EDL.
The far Right give the word ‘nationalist’ a bad name, and by confusing patriotism with their own particular extremist politics – be it racial segregation, neo-Nazism, or white supremacism – they undermine our efforts.
The word ‘nationalist’ is used today without any great sense of its meaning, so it’s difficult to know exactly what the organisers intend.
We’d take nationalism to mean that sense of pride in your country that leads people to act in its defence, by whatever means. But to have pride in your country you have to have an idea of what it is your country stands for – what is it about your country that makes you proud?
For EDL members, England will no doubt mean any number of different things, but there will be common ideas that unite us. We’re proud of our rich cultural heritage, the innovations we gave the world, our language, our pubs, our national football team (most of the time), our armed forces, and the sacrifices that previous generations made in defence of everything that we hold dear.
We’re proud that England is a place where people are afforded a great many rights and freedoms, and that it is not a place ruled by barbaric Sharia Law.
Unfortunately, we’re concerned that for the organisers of this demonstration, it means something else.
On the event’s Facebook page, it describes the demonstration as concerned with “Defending our culture against multiculturalism, immigration and Islamic invasion.”
At first glance that might sound quite reasonable. We do want to defend our culture, and we are concerned about the current state of Islam in Britain. We also believe that uncontrolled immigration and enforced multiculturalism are partly to blame for eroding our cultural traditions, breaking up our national community, and setting the scene for segregation and even homegrown terrorism.
But that is very different to opposing multiculturalism, immigration and ‘Islamic invasion’ altogether. What do they actually hope to achieve?
EDL colours not welcome at demonstration
The English Defence League was set up to campaign against radical Islam. In order to do that effectively we need to criticise not only the extremists themselves, but also the government’s failure to deal with radical Islam, and the Muslim community’s continued failure to expel the extremists. Unfortunately, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to make any of this criticisms without being demonised by members of the press and, more often than not, by politicians.
The best way to prevent this ill treatment is by gaining more and more supporters, until we reach the point where politicians realise that listening to our concerns will win them more votes than ignoring them. Wholesale opposition to immigration and to multiculturalism would have the opposite effect – it would make politicians feel justified in ignoring our concerns.
We all know of examples where someone making a perfectly legitimate criticism of Islam has been ignored or even victimised for speaking out. Critics of Islam, critics of the government’s approach to dealing with radical Islam, and even those who restrict their criticism to a very particular subsection of Islamic ideology or culture, often find that their opinions are being criminalised, or that they risk being accused of being a racist or an ‘Islamophobe’. Ironically, the way in which these critics are treated is often far less fair than any of the criticisms that they have made.
But that is not a reason to make our criticisms more general or our solutions more extreme. Rather, it is a reason to continue making the same criticisms that we have always made, just to more and more people, until the majority realise that they were never criticisms that should have been censored or regarded as racist or Islamophobic.
Perhaps then, our biggest battle is in winning back the right to free speech. We don’t want to be misrepresented as people who simply ‘hate Muslims’, ‘hate immigrants’ or ‘hate other cultures’. There are a small minority of ‘nationalists’ who do believe that England is a place that should not accept Muslims, Jews, Sikhs, blacks, or anyone regarded as ‘foreign’ – despite thousands of people who could be described as coming from a minority ethnic or religious background having integrated seamlessly into Britain – but this is not the view of the majority of people who would regard themselves as nationalists, and it is not the view of the English Defence League.
We believe that it doesn’t matter where you are from, or the colour of your skin, as long as you subscribe to a common set of values – values that make this country what it is – then you’re as English as anyone else. That is why it is disappointing that when a Sikh supporter of the English Defence League asked on the ‘Nationalist Demonstration’s’ Facebook page whether he would be welcome at the event, he was told that was not even English. That’s insulting. Evenly if there were an easily definable English ethnicity, how much does it really affect whether someone can be said to be English?
A number of EDL supporters have commented on the page, often asking for racist comments to be removed, but it seems to have had little effect.
EDL supporter comments on the Nationalist Demonstration Facebook page (names removed)
Perhaps then it is no wonder that the organisers are incredibly hostile to the EDL, citing Tommy Robinson’s comments in support of integration and multiculturalism as reasons for their hostility.
What Tommy has said on numerous occasions is that it is not multiculturalism, but Islam, that has failed. Uncontrolled immigration and a project of forced multiculturalism are certainly worth demonstrating against, but there is a big difference between identifying the problems that they have caused and being opposed to immigration and to different cultures altogether.
Just because the government has been far too focused on the advantages of immigration (without consideration of the possible problems), is no reason to forget the advantages altogether.
Improving the way in which the government manages immigration is achievable. Stopping it altogether is not (even if we did decide, for whatever reason, that it was desirable). Forced deportation of ethnic minorities and all the other unpleasant fantasies of white supremacists are exactly that – fantasies. The reasons why such a thing could never happen (let alone should never happen) are far too numerous to list.
Demonstrations that promote this kind of extreme political ideology are never going to achieve a great deal apart from the make their supporters look silly. And if there’s anything worse than being demonised as an extremist, it’s being thought of as an idiot. Ask the UAF.
Demonstrations are only effective if they encourage the sort of change that we want to see. Our long series of peaceful demonstrations and our opposition to far Right groups has seen the EDL being taken increasingly seriously by the media and the government, without our having had to abandon any of principles upon which the EDL was founded.
An association with the far Right would undo much of the hard work that EDL supporters up and down the country have contributed to the struggle against radical Islam.
That is why we will continue not only to speak out against the extremists who would undermine our efforts, but to ensure that they are not welcome at our demonstrations or events.
On September 11th, a group of EDL supporters went to pay their respects outside the US Embassy, and demonstrate against the presence of a group of Muslim extremists who, within earshot of victims’ families, were mocking those who died in the attack on the World Trade Center. Unfortunately, we have learned that amongst the group was an individual named Eddie Stamton, a relatively well-known neo-Nazi, tied to organisations which, amongst other things, have called for homosexuality to made illegal and have made a point of denying the Holocaust.
With that track record we would have thought that he would have felt more at home with the Muslim extremists.
We do not usually like to name individuals, but given Stamton’s known association with the Redwatch website (which borrowed the far Left tactic of picturing political opponents in the hope that they could be physically attacked), we believe that this time it is justified. Eddie Stamton, and any other neo-Nazis, are not welcome at EDL demonstrations, and will be ejected whenever they are identified.
Sometimes you have to wonder why Neo-Nazis and radical Muslims aren't friends
We will not associate with any individual or organisation that would look to exploit our cause in order to promote their own political ideology – far Right, far Left or otherwise.
Our opposition is to radical Islam, and acting in our nation’s defence against this threat should unite people from across the political spectrum. If our country’s flag, and acting in defence of our country, have become synonymous with Right wing politics, then the Left that should ask themselves why it is that they are no longer proud of their country.
The English Defence League will continue to peacefully protest against the extremism that threatens the England we know and love – not the England that the far Right would like to see, not the England that the far Left appear to have given up on, and certainly not the England that radical Muslims would like to see – but the England that even now the men and women of our armed forces are fighting to protect.
And the idiot that wrote this article doesn't know the difference between nationalism and patriotism.
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