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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunnos View Post
    Domestication of Horses, Lambs and Goats? Probably also Dogs.
    All those animals were introduced and domesticated in Mesopotamia and Levant thousands of years before the Bronze age...

    Neolithic farmers were also herders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    The title is understandable easily, the problem is that the question itself is very unspecific and ambiguous, so I don't know why you are surprised that the answers do not answer exactly what you want to know.
    So insted of Indoeuropeans put, f.e, idk, Slavs. Will you then have the same problem?

    If you consider Spanish and Portuguese indo-europeans too
    Why do you think, I should consider it at all?
    It is very strage assumption putted in the senstence.

    I can tell you which animals they (Can I say "us" as a oratory resource?) introduced to new lands, and vegetals too.


    By the way, rabbits are native to the Iberian peninsula.
    But not to Australia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    So insted of Indoeuropeans put, f.e, idk, Slavs. Will you then have the same problem?

    Why do you think, I should consider it at all?
    It is very strage assumption putted in the senstence.

    But not to Australia...
    So, Do you think that Slavs are the sole and legitimate heirs of the Indo-Europeans ?

    I doubt that there is anyone in the world capable of answering your thread's question, taking into account the ambiguity of the question itself added to the nuances and meanings that you personally give to the terms that that question contains, and of course how little is known about the reality of that ancient group.

    But hey, I wish you luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    So, Do you think that Slavs are the sole and legitimate heirs of the Indo-Europeans ?
    Insted of Slavs, put Japanese. Only please do not ask me if I think if Japanese are heirs of Slavs or IEs.

    the reality of that ancient group.
    And again you did it the same.



    Ok, I am done. Let's assume that it is my bad english.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Insted of Slavs, put Japanese. Only please do not ask me if I think if Japanese are heirs of Slavs or IEs.

    And again you did it the same.

    Ok, I am done. Let's assume that it is my bad english.
    Sorry, I didn´t know you were famous here and why you were known here, I have just read about it in a different thread.

    Welcome back Rethel.

    I like slavs, you are a very nice round-headed people.

    Seeing my paternal haplotype, we could say that at some point a neighbor of your ancestors got bored of living in the north and came to Spain to settle.

    I'm sorry, I'm not going to get into absurd discussions about topics in which I have no interest and with people who do not intend more than to argue for arguing.

    See you later.

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    Horses brought to America by them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Horses brought to America by them
    Horses like camels originally evolved in North America, but they were extinct since the neolithic period which the Iberians reintroduced them to the region. The odd toed hoofed animals which includes Horses originated in the Indian subcontinent when it was a huge ass island from the Eocene epoch which was confirmed by the recent phylogenetic study on their closest cousins:
    However, in the last decades many authors proposed that perissodactyls may have originated on India prior to its collision with Asia. Under this hypothesis the Indian plate may have acted as a “Noah´s Ark” during the Cretaceous and Paleocene73. Then, India carried Gondwanan forms to Asia after the break-up of the Gondwana super continent. This “Out of India” model was followed with modifications by some authors whom sustained that Indo-Pakistan area was most likely the center of origin for the Perissodactyls35,38,74. Further, Rose et al.35 suggested that stem-Perissodactyla could have dispersed to India from Africa, by early Paleocene, and then, given rise to Perissodactyla before contact of India with Asia. In partial agreement with these contributions, present phylogenetic analysis indicates that pan-perissodactyls were widespread on southern continents, particularly in India and South America (and possibly in Africa) by early Tertiary times. This suggests that the southern continents may have played an important role in the early evolution and radiation of hoofed mammals.'
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-70287-5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamal900 View Post
    Not to mention that Indra, the god of thunder in Hinduism, was adopted from the BMAC as well along with the drink of Soma.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra#Origins

    I wonder how the peoples of the BMAC were genetically like? I presume that they would have been very neolithic Iranians genetically, no?
    Correct. BMAC were Central Asians descended mostly from neolithic Iranians. In Central Asia they mixed with Sintashta/Andronovo and their descendants spread across Central Asia, West Asia and the Indian subcontinent. Most of the Neolithic Iran component found in modern day Iranics is actually due to BMAC.

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