Lost in translation. Americans vs the rest of us

[Boudica]

well that's err... very progressive of you,but generalizing is an intrinsic part of deduction. It is impossible to act without generalizing or stereotyping.

If you cam't see the difference in american preservation and the others then so be it indeed, however I think you'll find it's quite elementary my girl.

.... What are you even talking about? Generalizations, especially like the one you just made, are completely ridiculous and they are not accurate. You can't stereotype over 300 million people.. Also, further explain your statement that I put in bold.

[Turkey]

.... What are you even talking about? Generalizations, especially like the one you just made, are completely ridiculous and they are not accurate. You can't stereotype over 300 million people.. Also, further explain your statement that I put in bold.

I'm generalising about european preservationists and other preservationists. not about all people.

Everyone else knows exactly waht I'm talking about and I can see that from the previous discussion in this thread. They took it up exactly as I intended it to be taken.

It's about the american preservationist preoccupation with socialism while other europeans look to other factors.

If you can't see it , I can't explain it better and more concisely than that.

[AussieScott]

I think the difference is more between Germanic (capitalist) and non-Germanic (more socialist) nationalist. The Germanic nationalist parties with the most support tend to be capitalist, like the Vlaams Belang (Flanders, Belgium), Geert Wilders, Danish Peoples' Party, Swiss Peoples' Party, Austrian Freedom Party, and Norway Progress Party. You could probably even add Italy's Northern League into this. The exceptions to this are Germany's NPD (economically left wing, and not very successful) and Britain's BNP (economically centrist, had some marginal success for a time period).

The celtic (Sinn Fein, Scottish National Party, Plaid Cymru), Slavic, and Romance nations along with Greece seem to have national-socialist type parties.

I think a lot has to do with the Anglos/Germanics being on top in the prior existing power structure, thus supporting capitalism, whereas others like the Scots and Poles have sort of a colonial mentality in which they see themselves as historically 'oppressed'.

Majority of the fascist Capitalist Scots left Scotland from the 50's on wards when the Blacks were being imported into England. In fact they were politely asked to leave in the 6o's so as to avoid a Northern Ireland conflict.

That's why I live in Australia.

Divide and conquer as per usual.

[AussieScott]

This is exactly what this thread was meant to be about! We can see the divide in world views right here. There must be some reason why Americans can't see that the reason for immigration capitalism.

Maybe it isn't there?

It sure is here. They use boat people as target practice here.

Then they let them in. more cheap labour for the capitalists.

95% of the boat people are on welfare still after being here for 5 years...They vote Labor, they are the new vote stack in there electorates. Same with the Indians. The Chinese and African are the vote stack of the Liberals, well maybe not the Chinese as Abbott now backs Japan over China... They are political tools in the end for both sides of the divide. Take a turn Lib/Lab. Labor wrecks as fast as possible, and Liberals seduce and drip the poison in over time.

It's fascist ideals our Grand parents use to hold as values, that have been dissolved by the corporations, governments working in unison and the people who ascribe to the left-ism.