German authorities concerned about exodus of Turks

[Storm]

German authorities concerned about exodus of Turks

The German government is worried about the large number of Turks emigrating from Germany to Turkey, according to an Anatolia news report.



According to the Ministry of Labor and Social Security, there are currently 544,382 Turks working in Germany. Meanwhile, there are a total of 146,427 unemployed Turks residing in Germany.

Turkish-German Chamber of Commerce and Industry Deputy Chairman Nihat Sorgeç told Anatolia that he is concerned about the number of Turks who are born, raised and educated in Germany but then leave for Turkey.

“Germany is concerned about this. The departure of tens of thousands of Turkish academics from Germany to Turkey is watched anxiously by authorities. A university education for one person in Germany costs 200,000 euros. The German authorities are looking for a solution like increasing fees so that people do not return to Turkey,” Sorgeç said.

He said the Ministry of Integration was established six years ago with the goal of preventing Turks from leaving Germany, a practice that has been increasing in recent years. The ministry continues to work on finding ways to achieve this goal, Sorgeç added.

A total of 100,000 people are working in 4,600 German companies in Turkey, Sorgeç said. “Look at the managers of the famous companies and you will see that they are Turks who received a great education in Germany,” he added.

“On the other hand there are still integration issues with the migration from 50 years ago. There are unfortunately citizens who have lived here for 40 years and still do not know three words of German,” he said.

Turks living in Germany should be called “Germans of Turkish origin,” Sorgeç said. “The sooner we adapt ourselves to the Turks and Turkey, the sooner we can represent them.”

With the first wave of migration from Turkey to Germany taking place in 1961, Sorgeç said the structural elements are in place. “However, there is a shortage of staff in the technical fields in Germany, in the private sector and in the service sector. There is a need for workers in intermediate occupations such as sick and elderly caregivers, medical secretaries and technicians. In other words, graduates of vocational high schools in Turkey can work in Germany,” he said.

A total 805,750 Turks of the entire 2,435,230 Turkish population in Germany have German citizenship, according to the Ministry of Labor and Social Security, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the General Directorate of Overseas Workers’ Services.

That leaves 1,629,480 Turks who reside in Germany but are not yet citizens. With 146,427 Turks without work in Germany, the unemployment rate among Turkish citizens is 22 percent.

“We have the work force in Germany, but we don’t have the people,” Sorgeç said.

Source http://www.trdefence.com/2011/09/27/...odus-of-turks/

[Magister Eckhart]

Why not just make it harder to get into school instead of making it harder to get out of the country?

[Odoacer]

Why are they concerned about the Turks leaving Germany? They should be concerned with getting Germans to fill the positions they've for whatever reasons decided to assign to the Turks.

[Loddfafner]

This should be good news for both Germany and Turkey.

[Laubach]

believe to be the best solution for both countries. I do not know the extent to which this statement is true or not, but the services performed by the Turks, who are usually of little value, may well be done by an authentic German, without any disregard as to their profession. It is better to have a German doing the "heavy duty" than to have an immigrant, with a totally different culture and race his own, taking away jobs and contaminating the country

[zack]

German authorities concerned about exodus of Turks

The German government is worried about the large number of Turks emigrating from Germany to Turkey, according to an Anatolia news report.



According to the Ministry of Labor and Social Security, there are currently 544,382 Turks working in Germany. Meanwhile, there are a total of 146,427 unemployed Turks residing in Germany.

Turkish-German Chamber of Commerce and Industry Deputy Chairman Nihat Sorgeç told Anatolia that he is concerned about the number of Turks who are born, raised and educated in Germany but then leave for Turkey.

“Germany is concerned about this. The departure of tens of thousands of Turkish academics from Germany to Turkey is watched anxiously by authorities. A university education for one person in Germany costs 200,000 euros. The German authorities are looking for a solution like increasing fees so that people do not return to Turkey,” Sorgeç said.

He said the Ministry of Integration was established six years ago with the goal of preventing Turks from leaving Germany, a practice that has been increasing in recent years. The ministry continues to work on finding ways to achieve this goal, Sorgeç added.

A total of 100,000 people are working in 4,600 German companies in Turkey, Sorgeç said. “Look at the managers of the famous companies and you will see that they are Turks who received a great education in Germany,” he added.

“On the other hand there are still integration issues with the migration from 50 years ago. There are unfortunately citizens who have lived here for 40 years and still do not know three words of German,” he said.

Turks living in Germany should be called “Germans of Turkish origin,” Sorgeç said. “The sooner we adapt ourselves to the Turks and Turkey, the sooner we can represent them.”

With the first wave of migration from Turkey to Germany taking place in 1961, Sorgeç said the structural elements are in place. “However, there is a shortage of staff in the technical fields in Germany, in the private sector and in the service sector. There is a need for workers in intermediate occupations such as sick and elderly caregivers, medical secretaries and technicians. In other words, graduates of vocational high schools in Turkey can work in Germany,” he said.

A total 805,750 Turks of the entire 2,435,230 Turkish population in Germany have German citizenship, according to the Ministry of Labor and Social Security, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the General Directorate of Overseas Workers’ Services.

That leaves 1,629,480 Turks who reside in Germany but are not yet citizens. With 146,427 Turks without work in Germany, the unemployment rate among Turkish citizens is 22 percent.

“We have the work force in Germany, but we don’t have the people,” Sorgeç said.

Source http://www.trdefence.com/2011/09/27/...odus-of-turks/

Is there any indication that the actual German authorities, as opposed to one functionary with the German-Turkish Chamber of Commerce (a non-official body), are concerned about this development?

[Hess]

This is such disturbing news

Whatever is Germany going to do with less turks?

[Contra Mundum]

Turks are returning to Turkey because that is their home and where they feel the most comfortable. I don't blame them wanting to go home. The Germans are weird and this story proves it.

[Frederick]

My guess is, would German authorities have said: " good bye!" or "Thats a good news!", anyone would immediately call them Nazis.

So I think it was like this:

Saying: "What a pitty that they leave us!"
Thinking: "Praise the Lord almighty, they leave!"

Never trust anything that an politican says in public

[Agrippa]

Fact is, many higher level inhabitants leave the country, German and foreign ones, including Turks, the lower level ones stay, more to come.

That is a basic problem with a negative migration and demographic trend, Dysgenic factors working on both the indigenous and foreign ethnocultural elements in Germany. Because those rather low level Turks which stay have also more children, those who leave often not.

These Dysgenic trends are not just a German problem, but in Germany it is particularly bad, because the higher level status of an individual is almost directly related to less children and vice versa, because for people being socialised in the typical way, children are no great value in itself and if, they have only 1 or 2 children, which don't balance all those career and other persons out, which have no children at all.

Therefore, while it is no bad news, it is no good news neither, because they being raised and paid for in Germany, the best leave, and those for which the rest of the Germans have still to pay - not just with money (!), stay...

Having the choice, it would be better for Germans to send those low level elements back to Turkey instead, of which many Turks themselves say, that they are glad to get rid of them.

Turks like that leave:

Selma Ergeç

They stay:




Criminals, violent, brutalised and rootless people, asocials, uneducated, radical Muslims, backwarded elements, further away from Europeans in every respect, negative elements in general.

No win for Germany, not really, even less so if considering the investment in those who "made it" and go back with their education and abilities to Turkey - where they often die with less or no children at all too by the way, since Turkey itself is in a huge Dysgenic trend, which is one of the reasons for its steady Islamisation.