German authorities concerned about exodus of Turks

[Curtis24]

No win for Germany, not really, even less so if considering the investment in those who "made it" and go back with their education and abilities to Turkey - where they often die with less or no children at all too by the way, since Turkey itself is in a huge Dysgenic trend, which is one of the reasons for its steady Islamisation.

What's causing Turkey's dysgenic trend?

[Óttar]

“On the other hand there are still integration issues with the migration from 50 years ago. There are unfortunately citizens who have lived here for 40 years and still do not know three words of German,” he said.

Unacceptable! If I lived in Germany for 40 years, not only would I be fluent in German, I'd have a f*cking Pulitzer Prize. [Not really, but you get what I mean.]

Issues!? Moving to a new country should be seen as an opportunity. I would be exciting to learn the language and customs of the host-culture. These Turks must really be uncouth barbarians.

[Agrippa]

What's causing Turkey's dysgenic trend?

The same as elsewhere, the Western way of life in a Liberalcapitalist system.
Those which are more attractive, intelligent, better educated and more wealthy, tend to adopt the same way of life as bourgeois Westerners, so they have less children - and many other bad customs.

The lower level elements however, are like in the West too dumb and careless, have no status and material goals as much as the bourgeois, so they produce more children, even more so if being irrationally religious, or coming from social structures which are still more clan-system oriented.

That is not always contraselective, not as much as in Europe, but still, the Western Euro-like and higher level Turks have the same birth rate problems as Europeans, the lowest level elements have much more children in comparison, living outside of this bourgeois ideological and socio-cultural as well as material world.

Unacceptable! If I lived in Germany for 40 years, not only would I be fluent in German, I'd have a f*cking Pulitzer Prize. [Not really, but you get what I mean.]

Issues!? Moving to a new country should be seen as an opportunity. I would be exciting to learn the language and customs of the host-culture. These Turks must really be uncouth barbarians.

Well, I dislike them - especially those which are like those. BUT I can understand why they don't feel particularly attracted to the "Western way of life" - simple put, they want the wealth, the rest they don't care and that is reasonable, because if they would adopt it, they would just adopt a suicidal cultural degeneration too.

Why should they do that?

The less their women in particular learn from Germans, the better for their genes, bloodlines, clans - genetic and memetic success.

Every group, even Turks in Turkey, which adopted all of the West, the whole cultural degeneration, being infected by the Western disease and begins to die!

Compare:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...8&postcount=80

A Turk once told me: "We tried to conquer you from outside and we failed, now we try it from the inside and we will succeed."

That's it.

The less they adopt, especially for their women and family values in general, from us Europeans, the better for them. You don't want to be infected.

And the best way to prevent them from adopting bad habits is, if they don't even understand their social environment.

So they rather make up a parallel society, with supermarkets, business, insurance companies - EVERYTHING for Turks by Turks in Turkish.

In such an environment, it is not even necessary for them to learn German, especially not the women. But without the women, the children don't learn it neither - and since they are often lowest level in general, their Turkish is bad too.

So in the end, you have many Turkish individuals, which can't speak German properly, but good Turkish neither! It is a "culture" without a higher written language, poor lowest level proletarian culture - or even worse, coming from Anatolian herders and peasants, which never had a higher culture which they could lose to begin with.

This is a really big and complex issue, many reasons - but in the end, the Germans have to bleed for everything, like so often...

[Contra Mundum]

My guess is, would German authorities have said: " good bye!" or "Thats a good news!", anyone would immediately call them Nazis.

So I think it was like this:

Saying: "What a pitty that they leave us!"
Thinking: "Praise the Lord almighty, they leave!"

Never trust anything that an politican says in public

Good point.

[Siberyak]

Can Anyone in Germany actually confirm this story?

[The Lawspeaker]

@ Siberyak

Agrippa and Frederick are German.

[Agrippa]

Can Anyone in Germany actually confirm this story?

The article seems to be ok, but just biased, because they speak of "German authorities", when just single individuals with Turkish relations being quoted and even those add, that the integration of Turks living in Germany since decades is for many families still a problem.

So it is "pro-multicultural" propaganda in the way the articile is written, but the basic facts, in the article, seems to be alright.

[Loki]

My guess is, would German authorities have said: " good bye!" or "Thats a good news!", anyone would immediately call them Nazis.

So I think it was like this:

Saying: "What a pitty that they leave us!"
Thinking: "Praise the Lord almighty, they leave!"

Never trust anything that an politican says in public

It's refreshing to know that Germans have finally learnt the art of not being honest all of the time ... for their own sake.