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    "Don't do unto others what you don't want others to do unto you."

    This is the golden rule of morality. There's nothing relative about it.

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    I think it should be clear that if there are no laws of 'goodness' woven in the very fabric of reality, outside of human minds, it follows, our moral values are completely arbitrary with no basis in the real world. Even if we'd come up with 'perfect', formalized theory of morality, which would unambiguously resolve any moral dilemma, while satisfying all of our intuitive notions of morality (there have been many attempts to come up with basic principles of such a system, such as utilitarianism, but for any of them, there is some simple example of a situation, in which the principle doesn't satisfy our intuition), it would still be just an arbitrary human construct with no real meaning. This may seem quite counterintuitive, so it is important to realize, that 'goodness' (assuming it even exists outside of human minds) in a general sense is not necessarily about things like minimizing suffering or creating joy. With my assumption, the set of actions, which are labeled 'good', can be completely arbitrary, this is crucial and I recommend to think about it for a while. My personal take is quite clear - a statement, often used by christians, but viewed as incorrect by most atheists, which says that 'if there's no god, there's no objective morality and thus, even things like genocide aren't wrong' is actually true (using general definition of goodness), but of course, I don't live by it's implications.
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    morality is your mother running after you with this




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