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    Default Which nation has the largest skulls on average?

    What the title says.

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    Carleton Coon mentioned he measured some of the largest headed people among Dinaric Highlanders in the Balkans in the "Mountains of giants" book , but on average, it was among Baltics, in Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia.

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    From the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America

    http://europepmc.org/article/PMC/1325007



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    If I'm not mistaken in Coon's races of europe Kirghiz-Kazaks had the largest skulls

    Head breadth 161mm
    Head length 188mm
    Head heigth 128mm

    General fact is that extreme breadth ads to more total volume than extreme skull length.

    Kirghiz also had very large faces

    Face height 125mm
    Bizygo breadth 153mm

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    Kyrgyz-Kazakh is actually a name that was historically used of Kazakhs (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Казахи...СР):

    In tsarist Russia and in Soviet times, from 1734 to 1925, the current Kazakhs were called Kyrgyz-Kaysaks or Kyrgyz, according to the official version, then this was done so as not to confuse Kazakhs with Cossacks.

    In the part of TRoE where Coon writes about the "Kirghiz-Kazak", he quotes a publication titled "Kazaki, Antropologicheskie ocherki" (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII10.htm). However Coon also says that the heads of Kazakhs are "smaller than the heads found in northwestern Europe among Borreby descendants".

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    Yes but then you are comparing Kazakhs to (Borreby) subset of NW Europeans. The actual average skull size of NW Europeans seems to be smaller than that of Kazaks. Yes stating the obvious here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    If I'm not mistaken in Coon's races of europe Kirghiz-Kazaks had the largest skulls

    Head breadth 161mm
    Head length 188mm
    Head heigth 128mm

    General fact is that extreme breadth ads to more total volume than extreme skull length.

    Kirghiz also had very large faces

    Face height 125mm
    Bizygo breadth 153mm
    First and foremost, head or face height can't be as low as 125 mm. That would mean about 12.5 cm. Head and face heights are at least around 15 cm long, and that in relatively small headed people. When you go to places where a lot of people have extremely long faces, such as England or Spain for instance, it's quite common that people on average have a face/head height of around 20-23 cm on average, and sometimes even exceeding 23 to get to like 25 cm. I am talking here about length from chin to hairline mainly. Long face does not however equal big head, as other than the ooblong face they have, the rest of their head is pretty average in terms of sizes.

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    In my experience, the biggest headed on average people that I have seen must be the Dutch. A lot of Dutch people I've met are yuge headed, in all aspects of size, including face/head length. I've also seen Irish people with big heads and also Germans and other Germanics except for Swedes, who despite being Germanic, they rarely have large heads. Swedish people must be the smallest headed Germanic people on average, also probably together with Austrians, who despite speaking German, are mainly continental Celts in terms of DNA. I've also seen some large heads in Slavs, particularly Yugoslavs, but also (rarely though) in Czechs. But from the people I have met in real life, I still remain to the opinion that the Dutch are the largest headed people, at least that I have met.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygsi View Post
    First and foremost, head or face height can't be as low as 125 mm. That would mean about 12.5 cm. Head and face heights are at least around 15 cm long, and that in relatively small headed people. When you go to places where a lot of people have extremely long faces, such as England or Spain for instance, it's quite common that people on average have a face/head height of around 20-23 cm on average, and sometimes even exceeding 23 to get to like 25 cm. I am talking here about length from chin to hairline mainly. Long face does not however equal big head, as other than the ooblong face they have, the rest of their head is pretty average in terms of sizes.
    Face height is measured from eyebrows to chin, so not from hairline. 125 mm average is absolutely very tall face. Taller than most Europeans. For example this is what Coon writes on British Isles

    Measurements on the head height and on the facial dimensions of British are not numerous enough or sufficiently standardized to be satisfactory. Minimum frontal means range from 105 to 110 mm.; the bizygomatic diameter is narrow (136-137 mm.) among criminals, broad (144 mm.) among scientists; in Wales local means of 139 and 140 mm. are found, in the north of Scotland, of 140-142 mm. Bigonials follow the minimum frontal, and range from 105 to 109 mm. These breadth dimensions fall within Norwegian and Irish ranges, and seem for the most part essentially Nordic. Both foreheads and jaws are too broad for most Mediterraneans. Face heights of 122 to 126 mm. confirm this Nordic association. The noses are longer and narrower than those of the Irish, as a rule, and nasal indices of 62 to 65 are comparable to those in Scandinavia. There seem to be no perceptible regional variations in this respect, as far as one can tell from available data.


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