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    Ballon head is good, brachy ballon head+buzz cut=ready to war low inhibition look. Farmer phenotypes killed human aesthetics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wunjoz View Post

    Ballon head is good, brachy ballon head+buzz cut=ready to war low inhibition look. Farmer phenotypes killed human aesthetics.
    Dont worry, at least Turkey was not destroyed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanenz View Post
    Nope, Upper Paleolithic types were also dolicephalic ("Aurignacid" / Predmost etc.) and many pred. Up types are even today. By saying that PIE were mostly meso- dolicho, you already gave also a clue that it cant be only NF types have this trait. PIE were mixed craniometrically otherwise extreme berachyness of Bell Beakers would not be possible- at least that extremly quick change from doli to brachy...

    Europe would look different for sure. The main difference would be simply less Med looking people, and i dont mean only pigmentation/ hair colour. There is that "hidden" Gracile Med admix in Central Europe- called "Danubian" and also in the North as well (hidden because its not obvious) by Coon for example.

    Sardinians are mostly NF and there are a lot of AlpineMed looking people (what many Berids basically are) and also brachy types here and there. They arent homogenous looking by any means either.
    Less mediterranean and less nordic

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    Quote Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum View Post
    Less mediterranean and less nordic
    No, just less graciler types perhabs and def. more light eyed. More likely: people would just look different because NF influenced Europe- places with strong Med influences would def. look more drasticly different. You do realize that cephalic index can change in population through selection or enviromental factors. If we would have never adopted to soft food we would be less graciler.

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...alic_Index.png
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...secular_trends

    "In summary, cephalic index values of adult Sardinian men would seem to indicate a long-term trend toward brachycephalization, whereas the current data for urban Sardinian women and men suggest that the opposite trend, i.e. toward debrachycephalization or dolichocephalization, is in progress. Therefore, while the differences in height, esti-mated lower limb length and relative sitting height index among the four age groups of Cagliari women and men are statistically significant (ANOVA and ANCOVA controlling for SES), the differences in head dimensions are not. This would seem to confirm that environmental factors have a greater influence on height and especially lower limb length than on head dimensions."

    Basically someone like Al Capone is totally a Med too- it was just an anthrotard like Sergi claiming he is something different.

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    Current genetic tests don't determine anything more but the ancestry(eg. who is the grand grand father of x, closest population etc...), doesn't have anything to do with the autosomal make-up.
    For example someone with 100% chinese ancestry can be even a hallstatt if he/she is genetically engineered to look like it. The SNP they test are for ancestry, not really how one looks. So, someone 100% ENF could have looked even CM, or with 80% ENF and 20% WHG, "brown faelid". Or perhaps, even light haired just like some say the GAC was. Imagine, light haired farmers.
    And there are examples of farmers who look very CM by theapricity classification or incels' shitty broscience logic..

    But no, wouldn't look balloon-headed, this is a sign of "gracilisation", original CM types were long headed and even long faced (see the brunn types in scandinavia, from coon's plate, they all have over 135mm Face Height, purely unreduced). Europe would have more brunn nordid types. There were even amerindian types who looked unreduced and their heads were compressed laterally and facial length was great, closest to this type is the silvid pheno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Timelord View Post
    Current genetic tests don't determine anything more but the ancestry(eg. who is the grand grand father of x, closest population etc...), doesn't have anything to do with the autosomal make-up.
    For example someone with 100% chinese ancestry can be even a hallstatt if he/she is genetically engineered to look like it. The SNP they test are for ancestry, not really how one looks. So, someone 100% ENF could have looked even CM, or with 80% ENF and 20% WHG, "brown faelid". Or perhaps, even light haired just like some say the GAC was. Imagine, light haired farmers.
    And there are examples of farmers who look very CM by theapricity classification or incels' shitty broscience logic..

    But no, wouldn't look balloon-headed, this is a sign of "gracilisation", original CM types were long headed and even long faced (see the brunn types in scandinavia, from coon's plate, they all have over 135mm Face Height, purely unreduced). Europe would have more brunn nordid types. There were even amerindian types who looked unreduced and their heads were compressed laterally and facial length was great, closest to this type is the silvid pheno.
    Ever heard of hypermorphic proto-europid? Hypermorphic means that in parts of Northern Europe skulls exactly grew enormously laterally absolutely dwarfing earlier mesolithics.

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