Film about Utøya upsets survivors

[Phil75231]

That's true.

and the Brevik case is a perfect example.

Some groups get indoctrinated (ideologically) and become mere tools for other groups. Like what happens in the insect world where some ants invade other nests - chemically drug the conquered ants - and then turn them into compliants. From then on any related 'individual' that has a different opinion is percieved as a threat to the group, and anyone not following the obejctives of the group is perceived as a threat.

This misses the point. Brevik chose to slay human life in order to promote his goal - a Norway that's free of, if not all non-Europeans, then at least a Norway free of all non-Europeans who upset the apple cart in some way. Regardless of one's position of foreigners in Norway, Brevik would NOT be considered a villian had he not bombed and shot at people (well, no real one, at least). He might have remained unpopular or controversial were he to spearhead a new movement to keep "Norway for the Norwegians (or at the broadest, Christians and Secularists)" but he wouldn't be considered "evil" as such.

Enormous difference between promoting controversial and/or unpopular socio-political agendas and actually killing people in the name of those agendas.

[Siberyak]

Some jewish Producer with connections to hollywood probably made this film.

[Hevneren]

this is where you come unstuck, (again).

people don't have free speech.

your allowed to regurgitate what you learnt in school, and what you get from the media.

anything else, and your a 'terrorist'.

1. Fascism is the ideology seeking to destroy freedom of speech.

2. Unlike fascists, people with an ability to think for themselves are able to look beyond what they're being offered. There's nobody forcing you to believe one story over another. The story is quite another in a fascist state.

3. You're a terrorist when you commit acts of terror. Hence the name. Killing 77 people and blowing up buildings is characterised (and rightfully so) as terrorism.

[Hevneren]

.....and supporting a poltiical ideology that justifies the mass killing of tens of millions in the name of 'social justice'.

You mean Fascism? No, you got it wrong. Your kind support this. The kids at that camp supported democracy and free speech.

As for Captain Blackbeard, he still has a man crush on ABB and will frantically try to rationalise what happened in order to put his idol in a better light. To imply that those young people were "guilty" of something for holding an independent opinion in a free and democratic nation, is utter lunacy.

[Beorn]

As for Captain Blackbeard, he still has a man crush on ABB and will frantically try to rationalise what happened in order to put his idol in a better light. To imply that those young people were "guilty" of something for holding an independent opinion in a free and democratic nation, is utter lunacy.

What is 'lunacy' is you placing me on ignore yet still referring to me with near every damn post!.

[Siberyak]

Here is a scenario. Brevik gets released from the mental hospital in a few years. Then he goes out and does it again

[Curtis24]

The film looks like its a hack job.

[SwordoftheVistula]

He might have remained unpopular or controversial were he to spearhead a new movement to keep "Norway for the Norwegians

Then he woulda just got arrested, with a sentence not too much less than he is facing now. Because, see, Norway is ruled by these people (especially the Labor Party, whose operatives were targeted in the strike):

1. Fascism is the ideology seeking to destroy freedom of speech.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#Norway

Norway prohibits hate speech, and defines it as publicly making statements that threaten or ridicule someone or that incite hatred, persecution or contempt for someone due to their skin colour, ethnic origin, homosexual life style or orientation or, religion or philosophy of life

-Norwegian Penal code, Straffeloven, section 135 a.

The film looks like its a hack job.

See, this is why I told you we need Quentin Tarantino.

Here is a scenario. Brevik gets released from the mental hospital in a few years. Then he goes out and does it again

Turn that frown upside down!

[Hevneren]

Then he woulda just got arrested, with a sentence not too much less than he is facing now. Because, see, Norway is ruled by these people (especially the Labor Party, whose operatives were targeted in the strike):

Bullshit. Where do you come up with these wild theories? Do you even know where Norway is on the map? You clearly don't know what you're talking about here. People who've been subject under the "hate speech" paragraph have, at worst, been fined and had to take down certain hateful materials from websites and such. :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#Norway

Norway prohibits hate speech, and defines it as publicly making statements that threaten or ridicule someone or that incite hatred, persecution or contempt for someone due to their skin colour, ethnic origin, homosexual life style or orientation or, religion or philosophy of life

-Norwegian Penal code, Straffeloven, section 135 a.

Just about any nation on the planet has such a law, including the United States, where you go hysterical if someone uses the n-word or bad-talks the president. The difference is that we have greater press freedom than any other nation on Earth, except our Nordic brethren and the Netherlands, and we're allowed to print "offencive" cartoons in our newspapers, unlike in the US where it got censored.

You see, the penal code is more a way for people to post a complaint if they feel they've been harassed. The police won't knock on your door for being offencive.

In a fascist dictatorship, however, every opinion is regulated, restricted and censored. There's zero press freedom.

[Hevneren]

Here is a scenario. Brevik gets released from the mental hospital in a few years. Then he goes out and does it again

Isn't that your dream scenario?