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    Default Classify Rudolf Hess

    He's always struck me as having somewhat of an unusual phenotype for a German. His Wikipedia () entry states that his mother, Klara Münch, was an ethnic Greek, with some connection to a family named Georgiadis. I've always taken that with a grain of salt, until I came across this article.

    What do you think?








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    I heard claims that his ''Greek'' ancestry was really just ''Coptic Greek", I.E. Egyptian Christian.

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    I always thought it was well accepted he was Greek. Doesn't much matter anyway.

    As for his classification, pred. Faelid + Med maybe? Or vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier of Wodann View Post
    I always thought it was well accepted he was Greek. Doesn't much matter anyway.

    As for his classification, pred. Faelid + Med maybe? Or vice versa.
    Still, reliable sources make no mention of it, and his mother had an undeniably German name.

    Anyway, I agree he's predominantly Faelid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatest View Post
    I heard claims that his ''Greek'' ancestry was really just ''Coptic Greek", I.E. Egyptian Christian.
    That's what I also know.

    He does seem to be predominantly Faelid in cranial structure (his jaw was so square it was almost like a caricature ) but his mediterranean influences are more evident in pigmentation.

    He doesn't look like a Greek, if that's what you're asking. He doesn't look like a German either.

    I'd place him in the Balkans, most likely. Anyways, he was a great man, one of the most admirable of his Era.

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    Hess had robust features and a distinct unibrow, which both point to Greek heritage. The part of his Wikipedia entry about him being of half-Greek descent could be very well true.

    Coon on Greek physical traits:

    Within the Greek group, heavy beards, heavy browridges, and concurrent eyebrows tend to associate themselves with an Alpine type; there is also a linkage between tall stature, in the 170 cm. class, cephalic indices of about 80, straight noses, dark brown hair, and dark brown eyes. This last set of associations clearly denotes the presence of a strong Atlanto-Mediterranean element. There are also strong connections between black hair, occipital flattening, and narrow facial features, which means Dinaric or Armenoid. That the small amount of blondism among the Greeks is mostly Nordic in origin is indicated by its linkage with external eyefolds, relative thinness of beard, and absence of eyebrow concurrency.
    However, what ethniko.net tells about Canaris is rather incorrect:
    Many years ago I read somewhere that Rudolf Hess was partly Greek. I knew that the Abwehr’s leader Wilhelm von Kanaris was of Greek origin too (as was Herbert von Karajan), but I had no idea about Rudolf Hess’ Greek ascendence.
    According to Wikipedia, Canaris wasn't Greek but had a small hint of Italian ancestry. I.e. he was in fact of predominantly German heritage.
    Until 1938 Canaris believed that his family was related to the Greek admiral, freedom fighter and politician Constantine Kanaris, which influenced his decision to join the navy. While on a visit to Corfu he was given a portrait of the Greek hero, which he always kept in his office. In 1938, however, research showed that his family was of North Italian descent, originally called Canarisi, and had lived in Germany since the 17th century.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Canaris
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    Default Classify Rudolph Hess

    Remarkable square-ish face!


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    Crogmanid-Faelid but im not sure.

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    South Cromagnoid/Greek(unibrow) + north Cromagnoid (Faelid like?) No other idea
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    the cromagnoid is obvious (projecting browridges, broad upper face, squared and distinctive lower jaw, the thin lips, the positive chin), most probably fälisch (dalo-faelid) but he has also most probably a mediterranean component that prolonged his face to this and gave him the dark hair and rich eyebrows

    edit. now i see there was another thread on him with the same opinions
    Last edited by Nurzat; 04-14-2011 at 06:43 PM.

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