Common Finnish phenotypes

[Komintasavalta]

Another Finindian trying to make us Russians . I wait for Ruski members start thanking these finindians.

Peace man

[Finnish Swede]

Ok, do you realize you said ''all ethnic finns'' must be blonde? They are both dark haired and they are ethnic finns, so your statement is wrong.

LOL. Now then I said that BS? More like I calculate blonds only the people who really are that; not someones who now differs from ''coal heads'' (as I have noticed some do).
And nope all Finns are not (light) blonds. Far from that. Most of the Finns have sand brown hair.

Opposite I have said that almost all pure ethnic Finns have light eyes. And behind that, I'll stay. Meaning, yes ... there are few Finns with dark eyes, but I'm quite sure that if we would dig their family lines more back ... we would find the logical reason(s). Most of the cases anyway.

[Lemminkäinen]

Peace man

Finindians can keep him. Btw, he also is from Kainuu. Ugh.

I have a joke. Kekkonen visited in USA and the host asked why all Finns are drunk. Kekkonen, being very talkative Finindian, asked from Americans if they ever drink too much. The host told " here is a gun, you can shoot every drunk you see in USA. Tomorrow Washington Post had a small news "a bald ganster shot yesterday a Finnish tourist".

[Saiwalo]

Are they ethnic Finns or Saamis or mixed? I wonder how much Mongoloid they would have?

Regular northern Finns. Mongoloid admix probably similar to eastern Finnish average.

[Finnish Swede]

Peace man

[Komintasavalta]

Table 1 of Kerminen et al. 2021 includes a matrix of FST distances between Finnish subpopulations (https://journals.plos.org/plosgeneti...n-1009347-t001). I used the FST matrix to make the MDS plot below, where the extreme corners of the plot are occupied by Finns from Ostrobothnia, Kainuu, and East Lapland:

library(tidyverse)

t=read.csv(row.names=1,check.names=F,text=",R10-Southwest,R10-East_Lapland,R10-West_Lapland,R10-Savo-Karelia,R10-Kainuu,R10-Bothnia,R10-Kuusamo,R10-Evacuated,R10-Kokkola,R10-Central_Finland
R10-Southwest,,557,369,546,238,514,582,415,405,371
R10-East_Lapland,557,,404,251,267,618,545,472,226,338
R10-West_Lapland,369,497,,538,268,661,497,454,637,397
R10-Savo-Karelia,404,514,497,,497,538,632,219,363,392
R10-Kainuu,546,618,632,219,,503,505,498,362,544
R10-Bothnia,251,661,505,498,637,,602,302,542,423
R10-Kuusamo,538,538,602,302,363,639,,185,380,343
R10-Evacuated,238,503,415,185,362,371,392,,639,160
R10-Kokkola,267,582,472,405,542,338,544,343,,367
R10-Central_Finland,268,545,454,226,380,397,423,160,367,")/1e3
diag(t)=0

mds=cmdscale(as.dist(t),eig=T)
p=as.data.frame(mds$points)
eig=mds$eig
pct=paste0("MDS dimension ",1:ncol(p)," (",sprintf("%.1f",100*eig/sum(eig)),"%)")

ggplot(p,aes(V1,V2))+
geom_point(aes(x=V1,y=V2),size=.3)+
geom_text(aes(x=V1,y=V2),label=rownames(p),size=2.3,vjust=-.7)+
labs(x=pct[i],y=pct[i+1])+
scale_x_continuous(breaks=seq(-1,1,.1),expand=expansion(mult=.1))+
scale_y_continuous(breaks=seq(-1,1,.1))+
theme(
  axis.text=element_text(color="black",size=6),
  axis.text.y=element_text(angle=90,vjust=1,hjust=.5),
  axis.ticks.length=unit(0,"pt"),
  axis.ticks=element_blank(),
  axis.title=element_text(size=8),
  legend.position="none",
  panel.background=element_rect(fill="white"),
  panel.border=element_rect(color="gray80",fill=NA,size=.4),
  panel.grid.major=element_line(color="gray80",size=.2),
  panel.grid.minor=element_blank(),
  plot.title=element_text(size=10)
)

ggsave("a.png",width=4.5,height=4.5)

In the plot above, the position of Central Finns is intermediate between Western Finns and Eastern Finns. Therefore I think we can search for the average Finnish phenotype from Central Finland. One example is this Finn from Jyväskylä, Central Finland:

Spoiler!

[Zanzibar]

Other is Finn living in Lappland (= Lappilainen) and another is Sami living in Lappland (= Lappalainen). Go to call them wrongly, neither of them will like that .

Wow only difference is "i" and "a"?

[Finnish Swede]

Wow only difference is "i" and "a"?

Yes, foreigners should be careful

[Zanzibar]

Regular northern Finns. Mongoloid admix probably similar to eastern Finnish average.

Do Saamis tend to look different from Finns phenotypically? Do the two groups intermarried a lot?

[Saiwalo]

Do Saamis tend to look different from Finns phenotypically? Do the two groups intermarried a lot?

Vast majority look/act noticably different, but some can pass of course.