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    Uploaded by THELINDGRENN on Aug 15, 2010

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    "Free, do you call yourself? Then I would hear your ruling thought, and not merely that you have escaped from a yoke. Are you one of those who had the right to escape from a yoke? Many a one has cast away his last worth when he has cast away his servitude. Free from what? What does that matter to Zarathustra! But your fiery eyes should tell me: free for what?" - Thus Spoke Zarathustra


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    Ugh more Nazis. Sorry but this isn't the early 20th century anymore, you need to update your message rather than rely on the far past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commerce & Industry View Post
    Ugh more Nazis. Sorry but this isn't the early 20th century anymore, you need to update your message rather than rely on the far past.
    I'm not a National Socialist myself but have studied and dabbled in it somewhat.

    I agree that National Socialism really isn't relevant to our times. To understand the concept, one must look into the historical factors that gave rise to such ideology. I really hope Agrippa finds his way into this thread.
    "Free, do you call yourself? Then I would hear your ruling thought, and not merely that you have escaped from a yoke. Are you one of those who had the right to escape from a yoke? Many a one has cast away his last worth when he has cast away his servitude. Free from what? What does that matter to Zarathustra! But your fiery eyes should tell me: free for what?" - Thus Spoke Zarathustra


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    Quote Originally Posted by Commerce & Industry View Post
    Ugh more Nazis. Sorry but this isn't the early 20th century anymore, you need to update your message rather than rely on the far past.
    Sure...because the future is that the JewSA will have a white minority by 2040 and some european countries like Sweden and Holand also by the same time...great future! up
    Ooops no more pretty blonde swedish flight attendants, only women with burkas in Air Scandinavia ! Damn Nazis!

    Oh, by the way England has already 9 million non-whites (17% of the population), 1 in 6 persons are non-white, in London it's more than 40% non-whites. Congratulations!

    Yeah, those nazis were really crazy guys, insane people, the future of multiculturalism is much better, we whites are being washed from our own lands, but hey...that's the future man...ALL MONGRELS !

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    One can always learn a thing or two from ideologies such as national socialism as long as it fits within the framework of democracy and the rule of law.

    Some examples:

    The idea of a nation as a community (Volksgemeinschaft) which would include ideas like the former Hitler Youth (bringing young people into the countryside and teach them to be proud of themselves, their country and their ancestry and to let them work with the farmers or in public works, take them out camping, teach them skills)

    Eugenics. Whereas the Nazi's used it in a pretty horrific way there would be nothing wrong voluntary eugenics meaning that it should be legally possible to offer people with severe hereditary diseases sterilisation and that should be possible to offer severely mentally handicapped sterilisation or even euthanasia if they would so desire. That is.. if the person is capable of making a sound judgement on the matter.

    Environmentalism and animal welfare were also very important under the Third Reich and there was large-scaled reforestation and programs regarding the natural conservation. Yet again.. this falls perfectly in line with the idea with nationalism as nationalism also tries to bring out the best in the country and to nurture the blood and the soil.

    Ideas regarding health and social welfare: look for instance at the idea to create a car for the masses (Volkswagen), to create employment (great public works like the German motorways of that period. Also social welfare was considered to be important and falls right into line with the nation of a nation as a community. And one thing our stressed out societies could used today is a lot of Strength through Joy (a lot of poorly paid people are stuck in their apartments and can't afford a holiday so a bit of KdF would have come in handy if you want to relieve those people of the continuous stress and daily grind). Sports was considered to be a vital part of the education system.

    A real sense of history (although the Nazi's completely went over the top with it and reinvented history) and the interest in one's national identity, family history, genetic history, cultural history, linguistic history.


    I think that we can learn a couple of things from the Third Reich but only if it doesn't combine with dictatorship and tyranny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hohe heimliche Acht View Post
    I'm not a National Socialist myself but have studied and dabbled in it somewhat.

    I agree that National Socialism really isn't relevant to our times. To understand the concept, one must look into the historical factors that gave rise to such ideology. I really hope Agrippa finds his way into this thread.
    A lot of Europeans were negatively affected by the Nazi's. Posting videos of them isn't going to get the preservationist message across it is just going to turn them away. That is why I went Ugh more Nazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commerce & Industry View Post
    A lot of Europeans were negatively affected by the Nazi's. Posting videos of them isn't going to get the preservationist message across it is just going to turn them away. That is why I went Ugh more Nazis.
    Instead of just repeating a mantra you could take a good look into the ideas of national socialism (not just when it comes to "untermenschen") but all across the line and apart from the rhetorics there are some sensible ideas to be found.

    As I just mentioned before. Having said that: those ideas can be mentioned within the framework of a democracy and are (which is what I believe) to be an actual guarantee for a real democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post

    Instead of just repeating a mantra you could take a good look into the ideas of national socialism (not just when it comes to "untermenschen") but all across the line and apart from the rhetorics there are some sensible ideas to be found.

    As I just mentioned before. Having said that: those ideas can be mentioned within the framework of a democracy and are (which is what I believe) to be an actual guarantee for a real democracy.
    I don't have a problem with National Socialism it is just the posting a video of Nazi's espousing it. How well will that resonate with other Europeans or with us Americans whose ancestors fought against the Nazis. It is not the message but the messenger. Showing a video from Germany under the Nazi regime isn't going to work today. It is just going to marginalize our message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commerce & Industry View Post
    I don't have a problem with National Socialism it is just the posting a video of Nazi's espousing it. How well will that resonate with Poles or with us Americans whose ancestors fought them. It is not the message but the messenger. Showing a video from Germany under the Nazi regime isn't going to work today. It is just going to marginalize our message.
    Ok, so let people watch this video then, it explains everything in a much more appealing way:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_eh6DBpAqI

    [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commerce & Industry View Post
    I don't have a problem with National Socialism it is just the posting a video of Nazi's espousing it. How well will that resonate with Poles or with us Americans whose ancestors fought them. It is not the message but the messenger. Showing a video from Germany under the Nazi regime isn't going to work today. It is just going to marginalize our message.
    I suppose one could always try:
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    How do you think it looks today ?

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