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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll's Puzzle View Post
    can't we get Hitler's-brain-in-a-jar to sort it instead of 'nature' though?

    much more... interesting
    what do you mean ? Hitler's way of sorting it was perfectly Natural.

    he did his Dharma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breedingvariety View Post
    Paper Market has ZERO effect on the physical market:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muZ-6gTdsu4
    Oh, probably like speculation doesn't affect energy, like oil. Here's a video from a credible source, instead of the personal blog video you linked me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ17D9ICj1M

    The percentage of speculation vs production has doubled since the 90's

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerBaron View Post
    Oh, probably like speculation doesn't affect energy, like oil. Here's a video from a credible source, instead of the personal blog video you linked me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ17D9ICj1M

    The percentage of speculation vs production has doubled since the 90's
    Boo cheetahs, boo speculators.

    That guy is just a talking head.

    What does speculation vs. production mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerBaron View Post
    See, now Goldman Sachs speculation on food is a good thing. Starving millions of africans, someone give them a medal.
    Agreed. They should give them a medal for that one. After that they should be lined up and shot for the rest of the shit they have pulled over the years.

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    I don't see why the bleeding hearts always act like this is our problem. If Asia and Africa choose to bonk like rabbits then it has nothing to do with us.

    They'll run out of resources and compete with us for them whilst running out of water and farmland too.
    Meanwhile Europe and the Americas may actually have more sensible population levels and should in theory fare better.

    If Asia and Africa start competing for resources then protectionism would eventually be brought in. If they start grabbing land for resources then we defend ourselves. Hopefully they'd likely attack each other.

    This is why I hate it when Americans pester Europe about its falling population. The population is falling in most of Europe but will eventually stabilise when the conditions are right for population growth.
    The answer is not to out breed Muslims and Africans, it's to keep them out in the first place and to stop our governments using them as replacements. However even if the population wasn't falling they'd continue to import them anyway since more people means more labour (no matter how bad the labour actually is).
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    Besides.. it are "conservative Christian" (American) movements along with the Catholic Church that lobby (also abroad) against any form of family planning, contraceptives and abortion. So.. at the end of the day it are these "Christian" organisations, the Catholic Church (or should I call them "Chri$t Inc." ?) and the governments and policy makers they influence that are contributing to the population explosion in the third world. A nice example of it's devastating influence would be the Philippines.

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    Dose anybody know what % are Caucasians of the total world population? I mean Europeans or people of European blood anywhere in the world. Are we around 13% or less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    Besides.. it are "conservative Christian" (American) movements along with the Catholic CHurch that lobby (also abroad) against any form of family planning, contraceptives and abortion. So.. at the end of the day it are these "Christian" organisations (or should I call them "Chri$t Inc." ?) and the governments and policy makers they influence that are contributing to the population explosion in the third world. A nice example of it's devastating influence would be the Philippines.

    [YOUTUBE]uX2Bgc5VKzU[/YOUTUBE]
    Exactly.

    Often contraception is a good way of unsuitable people from not producing too many offspring.
    Here we have a problem with teenage bimbos getting knocked up and then being shackled with a kid whilst the boy, unprepared to be a farther at that stage in life does a runner. Are these really the sorts of people who should be reproducing?

    I'm against eugenics, it is a very dangerous idea for a start, but allowing the population to regulate itself by allowing for contraception and abortions can only be a good thing.

    Basically the people who want to breed and have a lot of kids will (sadly this will be immigrants a lot of the time though ) - the people who don't won't.

    In some places such as England or the Netherlands it would be good to allow the population to fall to more sensible numbers. It's just becoming ever harder to find enough to go round for everyone - housing, jobs, services, farmland.
    Around 30 to 40 million for England would be better.
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    I think that for the United Kingdom as a whole there should be 45 million people. The in 2010 the number was 62,262,000. For the Netherlands 8.5 million would be crowded enough but we would manage just fine (because of Flevoland). In 2012 the number stood at 16,847,007.

    For a country like the Philippines some 30 million (basically back to the early 1970s) would do. The current number ? 95,800,000 !

    Just look at this early 1960s travel video and think about the country as it is today:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    I don't see why the bleeding hearts always act like this is our problem. If Asia and Africa choose to bonk like rabbits then it has nothing to do with us.

    They'll run out of resources and compete with us for them whilst running out of water and farmland too.
    Meanwhile Europe and the Americas may actually have more sensible population levels and should in theory fare better.

    If Asia and Africa start competing for resources then protectionism would eventually be brought in. If they start grabbing land for resources then we defend ourselves. Hopefully they'd likely attack each other.

    This is why I hate it when Americans pester Europe about its falling population. The population is falling in most of Europe but will eventually stabilise when the conditions are right for population growth.
    The answer is not to out breed Muslims and Africans, it's to keep them out in the first place and to stop our governments using them as replacements. However even if the population wasn't falling they'd continue to import them anyway since more people means more labour (no matter how bad the labour actually is).
    The problem is that if Europe and America keep receiving refugees/immigrants then all those 'rabbits' will overpopulate in there and create total chaos (like it's already happening). Aren't the highest birth rates in those places made up of immigrants?

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