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    Are Scots Germanic? Before I came on TA I was on Skadi for about a week, and they were discussing the fact that Scots are/should be considered as Germanic. I know that the Scots were invaded by the Norse, the Romans, and the Germanics (angles, saxons, jutes) but are they Germanic? What is your take on this, what are your views/beliefs?

    I know that this is a heated debate, and some have very strong opposing views, but lets please act like civilized beings here, not dark barbarians, because I'd really like an answer and to see peoples views.

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    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementina View Post
    Yes.
    But you must agree that certain areas had less invading Germanics, while others had much more, right? For example people in the areas of the highlands are thought to have had no where near the amount of admixture then the rest.

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    Lowland Scots are Germanic, Highland SCots and Scots Islanders are Celtic.

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    I'd say they're a Celtic-Germanic mix.

    On the scale of most Germanic to most Celtic:

    English
    Scottish
    Irish

    I don't know where the Welsh would fit in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curtis24 View Post
    Lowland Scots are Germanic, Highland SCots and Scots Islanders are Celtic.
    Well, I don't think that there is necessarily a "celtic" any more, you know a "pure celtic" if that is what you are saying.. You can't forget about the Norse invasions, or the Roman invasion.. There wasn't too much getting away from the Romans.

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    That's more than a bit of an oversimplification I think. There were Norse settlements in the Shetlands, Orkney, and many other areas including the Mainland. There was widespred intermarriage between Norse settlers and Celtic natives. The Danes also intermixed with the (already mixed CeltoNorse) Scots and also left a genetic footprint of no small magnitude. This of course doesn't include the Anglo Scandinavians which raped and pillaged Scotland in the late 900s, or the fact that Scotland eventually came under Norman (viking/Frankish hybrids) rule, with no small number of Norman feudal lords contributing to the gene pool. This is just a cursory description of the Nordic and Germanic contributions of course.

    I think in the aggregate it might be more accurate to describe Scotland as "Celto-Norse" than Celtic, at least from a biological perspective. As it turns out that's not an entirely sour mix. It's worth noting that Iceland, a very successful society, was also a Celto Norse settlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boudica View Post
    Are Scots Germanic? Before I came on TA I was on Skadi for about a week, and they were discussing the fact that Scots are/should be considered as Germanic. I know that the Scots were invaded by the Norse, the Romans, and the Germanics (angles, saxons, jutes) but are they Germanic? What is your take on this, what are your views/beliefs?

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    YES.

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    Also the Anglo-Saxons of Northumbria only occupied the south-east corner of Scotland while Norse Vikings are the main source of Germanic stock both in Lowland Scotland (Galloway,Dumfriesshire) and in the Northern and Western Isles together with Caithness and Sutherland (the "southern land" of the Vikings) in the extreme north of the mainland.

    Scots are mostly a Celtic-Norse blend and range from Atlantid to Tronder in phenotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boudica View Post
    Are Scots Germanic? Before I came on TA I was on Skadi for about a week, and they were discussing the fact that Scots are/should be considered as Germanic. I know that the Scots were invaded by the Norse, the Romans, and the Germanics (angles, saxons, jutes) but are they Germanic? What is your take on this, what are your views/beliefs?

    I know that this is a heated debate, and some have very strong opposing views, but lets please act like civilized beings here, not dark barbarians, because I'd really like an answer and to see peoples views.
    Highlands and Islands were Celtic with sizeable Norse input. Strathclyde and the Borders were Celtic. The north was Pict. The Lowlands were Germanic/Celt. Scotland is therefore Celto-Germanic.

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