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    As I've mentioned before, after the fall of the fortresses like Avdeevka and few others, the frontline will roll to the West quite fast. It's not needed to be a genius or a specialist, just there are empty fields and villages behind. Probably Ukrainians with their magic thinking denied the whole idea that Russians can destroy the fortresses, "It should not be so and it won't happen". Now they lose village or few daily, they don't have any significant or even established defense lines behind them. They have in the northern part of Donbass frontline, but this bottom part next to Donetsk is nothing. So, I think the goal of Russia for now is getting back the Kharkov region lost territories from 2022, cutting the supplies to the Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and surrounding properly defended towns as a primary goal while moving relatively fast to the West in direction of Dnepr in the Southern part of Donbass frontline.

    There's an exodus from Kharkov at the moment and comandante Zelensky told it's not a time to be in city. He better told it before 24.2, but it was a plan to leave populace in such places like Kharkov and Mariupol in bigger amounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    As I've mentioned before, after the fall of the fortresses like Avdeevka and few others, the frontline will roll to the West quite fast.

    I read that a thousands of time about the fall of bakhmut and zero dominos effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    I read that a thousands of time about the fall of bakhmut and zero dominos effect.
    You don't read my msg and don't want to look at the map yourself, there are significant fortresses and defense to the West of Bakhmut. Returning of the 2022 lost Kharkov lands is needed to cut its supply at least. Chasov Yar, Konstantinovka and lots of villages around are indeed fortified and supplied from Izyum direction. Nothing like this behind Avdeevka. The line which was supposed to become a new line of defense after the fall of superfortress Avdeevka is already abandoned, just to move more to the West, again to nothing really fortified.

    The domino effect in the South of Donbass front is already on its way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    You don't read my msg and don't want to look at the map yourself, there are significant fortresses and defense to the West of Bakhmut. Returning of the 2022 lost Kharkov lands is needed to cut its supply at least. Chasov Yar, Konstantinovka and lots of villages around are indeed fortified and supplied from Izyum direction. Nothing like this behind Avdeevka. The line which was supposed to become a new line of defense after the fall of superfortress Avdeevka is already abandoned, just to move more to the West, again to nothing really fortified.

    The domino effect in the South of Donbass front is already on its way.
    I mentioned all this when it was clear that Avdiivka was going to fall into Russian hands weeks ago, that is what is happening. The Russians are trying to take advantage of the momentum, but right now it cannot be said that the front falled apart and Russians are advancing without stop towards a "total victory" in weeks or a pair of months or something similar.

    It could happen, perfectly, but I think we are not in that case right now.

    It is also true that an advance that is too deep would lengthen the Russian supply lines and that is extremely risky. I think that in addition to the effort in the offensive that has been so exhausting (in human and material casualties), that sooner or later the Russian forces are going to have to stop, and for quite some time.

    But hey, we'll see. Who can know what will happen? Anything can happen, and anything is anything.

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    While the war continues, people continue to pay tribute to the memory of Navalny in Moscow, "that Nobody," killed in prison.


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    And about the Ukrainian drone attack on Saint Petersburg the past night.

    I didn´t know that Ukraine has its own production of Sahed-like drones...


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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68457087

    Russia publishes German army meeting on Ukraine

    Germany is investigating the apparent interception by Russia of army officers discussing supplying Ukraine with long-range missiles - and possible targets.

    Audio of the video-conference meeting was posted to social media by the head of Russia's state-run RT channel.

    The officers discuss how the missiles could hit the Kerch Bridge, which links Russia to the illegally annexed Crimea.

    Russian politicians said the audio proved that its "sworn enemy" was planning attacks.

    Germany's chancellor Olaf Scholz on Saturday called the apparent leak "a very serious matter and that is why it is now being investigated very carefully, very intensively and very quickly".

    According to Der Spiegel magazine, the videoconference was not held on a secret internal army network but on the WebEx platform.

    The 38-minutes of audio was posted by RT chief Margarita Simonyan on Friday, who said it was proof Germany was planning strikes on Crimea.

    In the recording, discussions can be heard on the possible use by Ukrainian forces of German-made Taurus missiles and their potential impact.

    A spokeswoman for the German defence ministry told the AFP news agency that a secret air force conversation had been tapped.

    However, she said that she was "unable to say for certain" whether the voices on the recording had been tampered with before publication.

    Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova demanded that Germany "promptly" provide explanations.

    "Attempts to avoid answering the questions will be regarded as an admission of guilt," she said.

    Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of Russia's Security Council and foreign ministry, said on Telegram: "Our age-old rivals - the Germans - have again turned into our sworn enemies."

    "Look, with what thoroughness and in such detail the (Germans) discuss striking our territory with long-range missiles, choose targets to hit and discuss how to inflict the maximum harm to our motherland and our people," he said.

    Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday that the discussion betrayed the "cunning plans" of the German armed forces, which he said had committed "a blatant self-exposure".

    Kyiv wants Germany to provide it with Taurus missiles, which have a range of around 500km (300 miles).

    Mr Scholz has so far refused, fearing it would lead to an escalation of the conflict.

    France and Britain have supplied Kyiv with Scalp or Storm Shadow missiles, both of which have half the range.

    Roderich Kiesewetter, from Germany's opposition conservatives, warned that further recordings may also be leaked.

    "A number of other conversations will certainly have been intercepted and may be leaked at a later date for Russia's benefit," he told broadcaster ZDF.

    It can be assumed "that the conversation was deliberately leaked by Russia at this point in time with a specific intention", namely "to prevent Taurus delivery by Germany", he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68457087

    Russia publishes German army meeting on Ukraine

    Germany is investigating the apparent interception by Russia of army officers discussing supplying Ukraine with long-range missiles - and possible targets.

    Audio of the video-conference meeting was posted to social media by the head of Russia's state-run RT channel.

    The officers discuss how the missiles could hit the Kerch Bridge, which links Russia to the illegally annexed Crimea.

    Russian politicians said the audio proved that its "sworn enemy" was planning attacks.

    Germany's chancellor Olaf Scholz on Saturday called the apparent leak "a very serious matter and that is why it is now being investigated very carefully, very intensively and very quickly".

    According to Der Spiegel magazine, the videoconference was not held on a secret internal army network but on the WebEx platform.

    The 38-minutes of audio was posted by RT chief Margarita Simonyan on Friday, who said it was proof Germany was planning strikes on Crimea.

    In the recording, discussions can be heard on the possible use by Ukrainian forces of German-made Taurus missiles and their potential impact.

    A spokeswoman for the German defence ministry told the AFP news agency that a secret air force conversation had been tapped.

    However, she said that she was "unable to say for certain" whether the voices on the recording had been tampered with before publication.

    Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova demanded that Germany "promptly" provide explanations.

    "Attempts to avoid answering the questions will be regarded as an admission of guilt," she said.

    Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of Russia's Security Council and foreign ministry, said on Telegram: "Our age-old rivals - the Germans - have again turned into our sworn enemies."

    "Look, with what thoroughness and in such detail the (Germans) discuss striking our territory with long-range missiles, choose targets to hit and discuss how to inflict the maximum harm to our motherland and our people," he said.

    Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday that the discussion betrayed the "cunning plans" of the German armed forces, which he said had committed "a blatant self-exposure".

    Kyiv wants Germany to provide it with Taurus missiles, which have a range of around 500km (300 miles).

    Mr Scholz has so far refused, fearing it would lead to an escalation of the conflict.

    France and Britain have supplied Kyiv with Scalp or Storm Shadow missiles, both of which have half the range.

    Roderich Kiesewetter, from Germany's opposition conservatives, warned that further recordings may also be leaked.

    "A number of other conversations will certainly have been intercepted and may be leaked at a later date for Russia's benefit," he told broadcaster ZDF.

    It can be assumed "that the conversation was deliberately leaked by Russia at this point in time with a specific intention", namely "to prevent Taurus delivery by Germany", he said.

    But NAFO brigades told me that Ukraine is fighting alone and NATO countries are not involved? What's happening?

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