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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKnight View Post
    1) You didn't answer my question sir.. But okay.

    3) China and Russia might not share similar ideologies and religion ( I myself don't agree with China in most of their ideology) but they depend on one another in an economic and military sense.

    3) And that's a lie and a false count straight from, Kiev, -- Ukraine loses are around 150 K (that is KIAs and wounded soldiers), not to forgot the thousands of airplanes, infantry vehicles , helis and tanks they have lost.

    Russia and its allies , have probably lost well below 15k in comparison. Russia has a massive military industry, they have been replenishing the few loses they had. Ukraine doesn't have that capability thus HEAVILY depends on its western "allies:.
    1) I do not say that Russia is completely defenseless, but it is weaker than before.

    2) Putin appears to depend on the CCP, but the other way around, not so much.

    3) We disagree on accurate sources of information as to military losses, but that's to be expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaland View Post
    Putin wouldn't ask China for equipment unless Russia had suffered serious losses in Ukraine.
    Not necessarily. The military aid China provides to Russia will only strengthen their relationship, economical one included. Read below.

    China wouldn't give war matériel to Putin for nothing, it would demand something in return. Therefore, it's logical to ask "how much influence / control does China have over Putin and the rest of the Russian government".
    The value Russia could provide to China lies in the projects that would be mutually beneficial, given the situation. Since the west is avoiding a business with Russia, they found themselves a new partner. What we already see is that western companies' projects are fucked up and our profit from the projects was actually very high. We've lost our biggest trading partner and now China is taking our place. Crucial thing is, Putin wouldn't sign anything that would not benefit Russia. If you think Putin is somehow blackmailed by China now, you're wrong. The military support is a part of business, so to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaland View Post
    1) I do not say that Russia is completely defenseless, but it is weaker than before.

    2) Putin appears to depend on the CCP, but the other way around, not so much.

    3) We disagree on accurate sources of information as to military losses, but that's to be expected.

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    So it seems Putin speach have been postponed.
    I think something is happening in moscow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    So it seems Putin speach have been postponed.
    I don't think something is happening in moscow
    It's already recorded and awaited in the morning, from 6 to 9 am Moscow time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    They want to organyze a referendum in 3 days in a middle of a war.
    Did they really beleive anybody would talk the result seriously?
    Nobody seeks for some international recognition, first of all it's needed so they can move draft part of army to the second tier (logistics, supply, communications) while more of contract soldiers will move directly to the frontline + border troops will be included, too. Foreigners can sign from now contracts for joining troops, one of recruitment centers works right in the biggest migration centers in the southern outskirts of Moscow.

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    Putin will mobilize people, it’s clear now just the question is when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    Putin will mobilize people, it’s clear now just the question is when.
    Putin is going to mobilize the TA squad, ukrainians don't stand a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Anti-Russian propaganda of some Ukrainian girl. On similar way anti-Serbian Montenegrins try to manipulate using lies, semi-truths and anachronisms to "prove" how they are totally different people from Serbs.

    That reminds me to Catalans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by щрбл View Post
    Putin is going to mobilize the TA squad, ukrainians don't stand a chance.
    Well, for example, I'm in reserve for signal troops, army is not made of stormtroopers. I dunno about other Russians of the TA.

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