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Thread: Russian forces cross Ukrainian border 22.02.2022 morning

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    I am sorry for these mates, I would not go for a war to defend my country, let alone NATO


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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Nothing you've shown supports your interpretation, toilet cleaner.

    You've only posted a snapshot of salary earnings, where Russia was ahead, and now is behind due to bad governance (and maybe sanctions).
    I'm sorry to interfere, sir, but I would love to know, whose toilets is he cleaning? That's a low key job for middle Asian migrants no matter Moscow or province.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    There are still few places which will pollute Baltic Sea badly (after Finns and Swedes built new waste water system to St. Petersburg).

    Kaliningrad is one of those (having no waste warter handling systems), and then there are few factories close to sea (fertilizer chemicals etc.) in Russia.
    I'm genuinely interested about waste water system of SPB.

    Continue, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piotraschke View Post
    If Russia launches a full-scale, brutal invasion of Ukraine - we can probably expect even up to 20 million (!!!) Ukrainian refugees escaping to Poland.

    What for? What for do we need so many people, so many refugees? How are we going to provide housing and jobs for them?

    It is better if we just merge a territory inhabited by these 20 million Ukrainians with Poland. They will automatically become part of the EU and NATO.

    Therefore - as I wrote above - we don't need just people (refugees etc.), we need people + territory where they currently live.
    Russia will not do that. They need only some heads. Threat is better than implementation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vega7 View Post
    What is your opinion on this survey?

    https://ratinggroup.ua/ru/research/u...brya_2021.html

    I was under the impression that the present Ukrainian regime was much more democratic and transparent than before, but the more I learn about it the more I wonder if they are just equally corrupt in a different way.

    The survey says that 72% of Ukrainians consider Russia a hostile country and only 12% a friendly one, which would lead one to believe that pro-Russia support has waned considerably since 8 years ago. But that is also only if we trust the results of the survey.
    Let's be honest there are no democracies in this world just oligarchic republics where people can vote for candidates who were selected by big companies and/or oligarchs. The elites then make propaganda for these candidates and if their favorite candidate does not win they fake the elections or say the elections were not done "correctly". This is true for America, Europe, Ukraine and Russia. Especially Ukaine as one of the most corrupt on this planet has not really any democratic institutions. The entire state apparatus is a shit show even compared to the already corrupt Russian state. Also the West fuelled endless money via NGOs to shill for anti-Russian, woke and pro-American propaganda.

    I don't doubt that most Ukrainians "fear" Russia because of all propaganda on TV and the banning/censoring of opposition media. Ukraine does not really have freedom of press. Only freedom for various kind of pro-american opinions. But i still dont take polls seriously because they are often faked or manipulated to make again propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    I'm sorry to interfere, sir, but I would love to know, whose toilets is he cleaning? That's a low key job for middle Asian migrants no matter Moscow or province.
    Public toilets in Romania, his dream job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    I'm sorry to interfere, sir, but I would love to know, whose toilets is he cleaning? That's a low key job for middle Asian migrants no matter Moscow or province.
    I am so sorry, Nomadian complained, but I preffer those Ukrainians to Poland over your "yuzhnye partniory"
    Подмосковную пятиэтажку захватили мигранты - Россия 24 // Migrants seized a five-story building near Moscow - Russia 24


    Poland: More and more Ukrainians are buying flats in Poland
    https://ec.europa.eu/migrant-integra...and_en?lang=de

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    People themselves is a more effective resource than huge lands with an infrastructure of 80s. You don't have money to mantain it. EU spends billions just on Poland, who wanna spend even more on your new lands? I say it all theoretically, it would never happen, for sure.
    Ukraine has pretty extensive natural resources:

    1st place in Europe proven uranium ore reserves

    2nd place in Europe and 10th in the world titanium ore reserves

    2nd place in the world in terms of manganese ore reserves (2.3 billion tonnes or 12% of world reserves)

    2nd place in the world iron ore reserves (30 billion tons)

    2nd place mercury ore reserves

    3rd place in European (13th place in the world) shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)

    4th based on the total value of natural resources

    7th place in coal reserves (33.9 billion tonnes)

    1st place in Europe in terms of arable land

    3rd in the world in terms of black soil area
    (25% of the world's black soil volume)

    1st place in the export of sunflower and sunflower oil

    2nd place in the world in barley production and fourth in barley exports

    3rd place corn producer and 4th place corn exporter

    4th place as the world's potato producer

    5th place as the world's rye producer

    5th place in world beekeeping (75,000 tons)

    8th place in the world in wheat exports

    9th place in the world in egg production

    16th place in world cheese exports.

    Ukraine is able to meet the food needs of an estimated 600 million people.


    1st place in Europe in ammonia production

    2nd place in Europe and the world's fourth largest natural gas pipeline system (142.5 billion cubic meters of gas throughput in the EU)

    3rd largest and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants

    The world's 3rd largest iron exporter

    4th place in the world in clay exports

    4th place in the world in titanium exports

    8th place in the world in the export of ores and concentrates

    The world's 10th largest steel producer (32.4 tonnes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I trusted Putin that Russia wants peace and wont invade Ukraine. Im terrified and scared, what will happen next. Putin dissappointed me, maybe Biden was right that he is a cold blooded murderer.
    I trusted that Putin would honor his treaty alliances with Armenia; instead, he helped Azerbaijan force Armenia to sign a crippling & humiliating surrender, in 2020. I thought he'd do what he's doing now, in the Ukraine; instead, he wouldn't lift a finger, while Turkey & Azerbaijan ganged up against their neighbor. Well, I guess that helping Armenia to surrender is kind of helping. I'm very disappointed with Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Public toilets in Romania, his dream job.
    It's realy doubtful statement and weak insult. Usually Russian trolls insult Ukrainians this way about cleaning Polish public toilets. Provincial Russians rarely go abroad in search of such job, most of them concentrate in Moscow, Petersburg and few other big cities in a search of employment, but still low key jobs are for migrants, Russians avoid some jobs usually.

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