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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    I read they were harrassing Slavic people for centuries.
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post
    Yes.
    Don't lie like a Jew - they were pro White Russian in Russian civil war not anti. Stalin sent them to gulags.. are you happy about that?
    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12

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    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12

    Definition of untrustworthy and loose character are those that don't believe in God.


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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Don't lie like a Jew - they were pro White Russian in Russian civil war not anti. Stalin sent them to gulags.. are you happy about that?

    History didn't start in the 20th century.

    Crimean Tatars were a powerful Khanate that extended well beyond Crimea.

    They repeatedly raided Lithuania and Muscovy, captured people and sold them into slave market.


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    You have Jewish genes.

    Show us the Principality of Theodoro.

    You are either incompetent, ignorant or a Jew lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    You have Jewish genes.

    Excuse me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post
    Excuse me?
    You lie therefore you are Jew. The way the world is according to me.
    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12

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    The Azov_Greek on MDLPK23b looks like 3-way mix of Tatar Turk, Bulgarian and Pontic Greek.

    If it's representative, it confirms the historical narrative mentioning that the Greek groups there mixed with Tatars, maybe the raison d'ętre of some Turkish speaking Urum groups in the region and elsewhere (e.g. Georgia).

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    Beautiful Russian Orthodox church in Crimea.



    Magnificient architecture.
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    60.4 Slavic: RUS_Sunghir_MA
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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    The Azov_Greek on MDLPK23b looks like 3-way mix of Tatar Turk, Bulgarian and Pontic Greek.
    That's a wrong model. They are not a mixture of such modern populations. They are partially (I don't know what %) descended from the Tauri:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tauri

    We don't know how the Tauri looked like in terms of autosomal DNA. But I suspect they could have strong ties to the Caucasus Hunter-Gatherers.

    KER1 was a Bosporan Greek and an ancestor of Azov Greeks (Mariupol Greeks / Crimean Greeks) - here are his scaled G25 coordinates:

    Code:
    KER_1,0.104717,0.125926,-0.010559,-0.034884,-0.008617,-0.017012,-0.002585,-0.004615,-0.023111,-0.000729,0.005196,-0.003747,-0.006541,0.002615,-0.002036,-0.005834,0.001043,-0.011402,-0.005782,0.004877,0.006239,0.011994,0.005916,0.008  073,-0.004431
    Ethnic history of Crimea until the 15th century - timeline:

    The oldest known inhabitants were Taurians (Tauri) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tauri


    1000 BC - Tauri and Cimmerians inhabit Crimea
    600 BC - Tauri and Scythians inhabit Crimea
    500 BC - Tauri, Greek settlers and Scythians
    480 BC - Tauri, Bosporan Greeks and Scythians
    200 BC - Bosporan Greeks, Tauri, Scythians and Sarmatians
    109 BC - Bosporan Greeks (vassals of Pontic Greeks), Scythians, Sarmatians
    63 BC - Bosporan Greeks (vassals of Rome), Scythians and Sarmatians
    250 AD - Bosporan Greeks, Scythians and Sarmatians
    300 AD - Bosporan Greeks and Ostrogoths
    375 AD - Hunnic Empire conquers Crimea
    453 AD - Goths regain independence, Byzantines liberate Bosporan Greeks
    650 AD - Bulgars subjugate Crimean Goths
    750 AD - Khazar Empire conquers most of Crimea
    965 AD - East Slavs form the Principality of Timutarakan in eastern Crimea
    988 AD - Principality of Timutarakan captures Chersonesus, but gives it back
    1000 AD - Pechenegs conquer northern parts of Crimea
    1036 AD - Pechenegs defeated by Kievan Rus, north Crimea captured by Cumans
    1083 AD - Byzantine Crimeans conquer the Slavic Principality of Timutarakan
    1200 AD - north Crimea (Steppes) ruled by Cumans, southern by the Byzantines
    1204 AD - Byzantine Crimean territories are now ruled by the Empire of Trebizond
    1238 AD - Mongol Golden Horde invades northern Crimea and defeats the Cumans
    1266 AD - Genoese Italians buy the city of Caffa (Feodosia) from the Mongol Khan
    1313 AD - Golden Horde's Khan converts to Islam - Islam spreads into Crimea
    1330 AD - Principality of Theodoro gains independence from the Empire of Trebizond
    1400 AD - Crimea invaded by Tamerlan (Timurids), Genoa captures Greek cities
    1449 AD - Independent Crimean Khanate emerges in former Golden Horde areas
    1475 AD - Turkey invades southern Crimea, conquering Theodoro and Genoese lands


    ^^^
    Timeline above is based on this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0-fLgWoxIY


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