If the USA (Israel) goes for war with Iran, who will you support?

[Zephyr]

Here they go...



The deeply entrenched neo-ortho-judaic nature of the dominating elites of the United States want blood. They want to unleash the apocalypse so needed for what they consider the Second Coming and for what jews see as the bloodbath needed for the arriving of the Messiah. But what is this Non-European character which guides the politics and the mobs of America?

Christian Zionism is the answer to this puzzle.

"Christians Must Continue Their Undying Support for Israel"
Rev. Jerry Falwell

Briefly stated, Christian Zionism is a movement within Protestant fundamentalism that sees the modern state of Israel as the fulfilment of Biblical prophecy and thus deserving of political, financial and religious support.

Christian Zionists work closely with the Israeli government, religious and secular Jewish Zionist organizations, and are particularly empowered during periods when the more conservative Likud Party is in control of the Knesset. Both the secular and religious media place Christian Zionism in the Protestant evangelical movement, which claims upward of 100-125 million members in the US. However, one would more accurately categorize it as part of the fundamentalist wing of Protestant Christianity, since the evangelical movement is far larger and more diverse in its theology and historical development.

Christian Zionism is a growing political and religious movement within the most conservative branches of Protestant fundamentalism, but it can also be found in the broader evangelical branches of Christianity, including the evangelical wings of the mainline Presbyterian, United Methodist, Lutheran and other Protestant churches. It thrives during periods of political and economic unrest such as the present, characterized by international terrorism, global recession and fear of wars in the Middle East. With its pessimistic view of history, Christian Zionism seeks to provide simple and clear answers through a literal and predictive approach to the Bible. Some estimate that 20-25 million American fundamentalist Christians hold these views, and the phenomenon is growing.

But we will explore this particular subject in another time. For the time being, let's analyse where is the real threat.

Who wants to nuke who after all?

The picture answers the question.

What menace is supposed to come from Iran?

Shahab missiles have a range that could barely pose any menace to Europe:


And besides, Iran would never perform such an attack, because we all know that in the day they would try to launch ONE nuclear attack, Iran would be raised to the ground, furthermore the Iranian missiles would most probably be neutralized before they could barely take off.

So this is mostly scaremongering propaganda for special people who believe they will no longer watch the Superbowl because Iran can destroy the world. Serves well the agenda of Fundamentalists whose main goal is to get rid of the last important anti-zionist nation, by demolishing its economy and installing a puppet regime favourable to the Israelo-American rightwing.

Israel, the only nation who threatened Europe with a "nuclear holocaust", on the other hand is another business:


It's a game of lies and hypocrisy. Israel is the only nuclear menace to Europe. The United States will send their sons to war for Israel. It is not about democracy either, since the United States have strong alliances with the most vile regimes of the world for the sake of Israel. Even the utterly cruel dictatorship of Saudi Arabia is in tune with Washington. Arabs have always envied and reviled the Persians: they hate Iran even more than they hate Israel and this is all that matters for the USA/Israel.

Iran is one of the few nations in the world which escapes the tight grip of global capitalism and israelism/americanism. Even having to overcome a war funded by the "west" which claimed over 1.000.000 lives in the 1980's, the poverty rate in Iran is today similar to that of the United States:



However contrary to what happens in the USA, the gap has been closing:

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=ir&v=69
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?v=69&c=us&l=en

Finally, contrary to "western" belief (western here being a concept of futile consumerist zeropeans or their descendants), Iran is NOT a backwards nation, people in Iran are developed and sophisticated, having an average cultural level far above the average American.

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The final question is:

If the USA (Israel) goes for war with Iran, who will you support?

[zack]

Iran. If we stick our nose into this bullshit we deserve to be humiliated and to suffer through the economic downturns.

Im sure Joe mccarthy will come into this thread saying if the united states gets humiliated it will be a disastor for the west.

Good. The current west needs to die,especially if the current west is a bunch of war mongering zionists wrapped around israels finger.

[rhiannon]

Iran. If we stick our nose into this bullshit we deserve to be humiliated and to suffer through the economic downturns.

Im sure Joe mccarthy will come into this thread saying if the united states gets humiliated it will be a disastor for the west.

Good. The current west needs to die,especially if the current west is a bunch of war mongering zionists wrapped around israels finger.

Israel is the fulcrum for all of our bullshit, I completely agree.

I truly believe that if the United States STOPPED bankrolling Israel's terroristic campaign against the Palestinians (who are Muslim, Christian, AND Jewish), Iran and the rest of the Middle East would, at the very least, take a mellower stance against the West.

I could be wrong about this....but the only way we are going to find out is by actually doing it.

In the meantime, we risk going to war yet again, and watching even more of our young people die for a cause they had no part in creating

[Joe McCarthy]

Rooting for Iran is high treason.

[Egbert]

As I said in another thread, I'm not convinced the US will attack Iran, but if it does I definitely support it and in all honesty Israel weighs very little in that opinion. I support Western dominance and oppose Islamism, nor do I give much thought to the well-being of Muslims...or any non-whites for that matter.

[Unurautare]

Jews or Muslims? Why can't they nuke each other out? I suppose USA if I was given no other option than those 2.

[StonyArabia]

The justice will be with Iran, and the injustice will be with the U.S and it's allies. If the U.S invades Iran, there is going to be a Pan-Islamic anger never foreseen before, and the sectarian as well ethnic divide will be ignored. Iran has already shown itself it's willing to cross both ethnic and sectarian lines in the Muslim world. There is enough anger at the U.S after the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. As well the blind support for Israel that the U.S has done has led to this complication. Iran is not Iraq and it's not Afghanistan, it can put a heavy resistance and it has several proxy groups that it can use against the Americans and the Israelis. The Americans can't subdue Afghanistan are continuing in fact to suffer setbacks, and the same is true of Iraq. America has no more resources to go war. The Iraq and Afghan wars have been eating at the American economy at large, and both are seen as humiliating defeats by many. America needs to call her troops home and to stop going in vain wars and telling it's people for democracy and freedom, since most sane people know that's nonsense as well it's partly to take control of the natural resources.

[Gratis]

Iran. If we stick our nose into this bullshit we deserve to be humiliated and to suffer through the economic downturns.

Im sure Joe mccarthy will come into this thread saying if the united states gets humiliated it will be a disastor for the west.

Good. The current west needs to die,especially if the current west is a bunch of war mongering zionists wrapped around israels finger.

If the West loses, you know who wins?

Islam.

[Zephyr]

Rooting for Iran is high treason.

Rooting for the interest of Israel against the World is the ultimate human treason.

[Egbert]

If the West loses, you know who wins?

Islam.

This really cannot be over-emphasized enough, it is the brutal reality of the situation. If and when the West collapses, there will be no ashes to rise from, the fate of us all as a people go with it...and the vacuum left behind will immediately be filled by Islam in Europe and Latin America (Mexicans) in the US. The more we weaken these opposing civilizations, the better off we will be.