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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Because we now know that the earth is but a tiny speck of dust in an unfathomably large universe, the notion that human beings are "special creations of God", and in particular are so important that God "gave his only begotten Son" for their "salvation" now seems like such palpable nonsense that anyone who believes it would have to be demented. And inasmuch as all the major religions are built around the notion that they are "special creations" of the Creator of the Universe, we can forthwith assign all such religions to the dustbin of superstition. The argument here is evidently much like what Bertrand Russell had in mind when he said, "That God would bother with humans proves that he is demented; that he is demented proves that he does not exist."
    Cool, why do you say that to me? I am not religious, so you don't have to explain your points. Explain them to someone who is a Christian or a Muslim. Maybe that will work. But do that without equating Holy Trinity and dogs. That is an enormous crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    I'm not speaking for God, but if you read the Bible it does seem to suggest that most people will not find the way home.

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    Where does it say that in the Bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    Cool, why do you say that to me? I am not religious, so you don't have to explain your points. Explain them to someone who is a Christian or a Muslim. Maybe that will work. But do that without equating Holy Trinity and dogs. That is an enormous crime.
    Bro, geniuses are misunderstood. Spinoza believed in God but it was verging on pantheism like Einstein. The God of Spinoza is a very different God than the humanlike God depicted in the Bible. For Spinoza, self-centered humans confuse God’s nature with human nature, as they anthropomorphize God with human characteristics and a human personality; for example being angry and punitive with the disobedient, and pleased and rewarding with the obedient. In one of Spinoza’s correspondences, he poked fun at anthropomorphic self-centered assumptions about God, with that quote. He was not equating the holy Trinity with dogs you completely miss the point of his analogy he used the dog star Sirius constellation because : Deus sive Natura .

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    It is OK to honestly debate about eachs own ideas about God. It should be Welcomed.

    God as nature is also a blesphemy, although nature is sacred but why we call something as supreme and good/all good? this gotta be supranatural in all respect. And it is true that using human perception to probe God is doomed to fail but not at all futile since we are human beings we must start out as what we are. We are flawed as human beings and each one of us is not exceptionally important to Christ like all flies are the same to us. When we make distinguishment on the species, we also allot to them different names and significances in the whole system of biosphere, but this distinguishment does not affect the ways of their lives and faith as an individual. Whatever we do, we have to see all human beings absolutely equal to Christ to start with the true faith in Christ. We do not make distinctions of our own as individuals in virtue to Christ like do not a fly, a chicken, a bird in their respective species. But, when we come togather as a species in this common faith, we distinguish ourselves to Christ as a species, like eagles VS chickens; whales vs sharks...We can draw on nature in to interprete the gospel, better and better, but Christ is supranatural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley View Post
    Where does it say that in the Bible?
    “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it” (Matt. 7:13–14)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it” (Matt. 7:13–14)
    The earthly Apricity version of which would be: "It is easier for Morti to go through the eye of a needle than for Richmond to enter into the kingdom of hotties." (Raedwald, mirror capture 24/7 )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it” (Matt. 7:13–14)
    So you skipped the beginning of the chapter specifically saying don’t judge and focus on other people’s problems when you’ve got your own problems to solve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley View Post
    So you skipped the beginning of the chapter specifically saying don’t judge and focus on other people’s problems when you’ve got your own problems to solve?
    I noticed something. Some people are "Christian schadenfreudists" who take pleasure in the pain of ostensibly damned souls.

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    We are all in hell already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tongio View Post
    We are all in hell already.
    De fato

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