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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    Should the EU be destroyed or reformed?
    Destroyed, providing that some countries could stay together and go on in cooperation. As for my part I think of various German countries. If you have the same language you can have the advantages of cooperation without destroying the grown culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Yes the Tory Government are completely duplicitous. They have lied about everything. Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be much choice for the British at the moment.
    At least they got us out of the EU, though. None of the others would have.

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    It must become what it always should have been, some common interest and cooperations in economy, science and development projects, without any additional power or sovereignty interferences over each nations.

    Basically it should be Airbus, ESA and ITER. Everything else can die, including its stupid currency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damião de Góis View Post
    Like others have said, i also think the EU in theory is a good idea, but it was poorly executed. An organization such as this has kept peace in Europe for decades.
    Yes. If Germany had taken up its role independently of the US, to lead EU foreign policy, I think the EU and Russia would have unending peace. But the combination of US influence from the top, effectively dictating to Germany how they should behave towards Russia, and also the fanatically anti-Russian influences from Poland and the Baltic States, are enough to ensure that there can be no friendship between the EU and Russia. It's a great shame, it's like the Germans are emasculated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    It's a great shame
    The Greek economy only starting recovering after the americans put krauts on a leash. If there's one thing the yanks are good at, that's it. What you said about Russia is true however.

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    There wont be any less non whites in britain just like there are not less in USA i think brexit is actually because the UK considers the EU as competitor but Immigration issue was popular with the voters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Ironically if 'Anglo' influence in the EU had been greater, the first two would have been less of a problem.
    No, England is just puppet of USA, if they are staying then the american influence would have been bigger in EU for sure. Continental european hegemony for germans and the other parts of world for english, it was always the "deal". Im happy that England is not EU member anymore, i dont like atlantism and the anglo-saxon influence in Europe because its closely related to american culture which is harmful to various unique european cultures that should be preserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    No, England is just puppet of USA, if they are staying then the american influence would have been bigger in EU for sure. Continental european hegemony for germans and the other parts of world for english, it was always the "deal". Im happy that England is not EU member anymore, i dont like atlantism and the anglo-saxon influence in Europe because its closely related to american culture which is harmful to various unique european cultures that should be preserved.
    What is Germany if not a puppet of the USA?
    Ever heard about the Atlantikbrücke? As you can speak German, you will easily find out that every important person in German politics, media and art is openly member of it and that the whole purpose of this organisation is transatlanticism on the expense of Germany.
    I think the only relevant force in Europe that wanted independence from the USA was the Gaulism movement in France, but that's also a dead movement by now.
    In Germany only die Linke and AfD have are against the US influence, but they are a joke when it comes to support in the population and influence.
    So Brexit has changed absolutely nothing in regards to the US influence on the EU and every country within the EU.
    The Ukraine conflict in fact increased the influence, look at Sweden and Finland's desire to join NATO now, which makes you a puppet state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    No, England is just puppet of USA, if they are staying then the american influence would have been bigger in EU for sure. Continental european hegemony for germans and the other parts of world for english, it was always the "deal". Im happy that England is not EU member anymore, i dont like atlantism and the anglo-saxon influence in Europe because its closely related to american culture which is harmful to various unique european cultures that should be preserved.
    Whatever. Americanisation is no less pervasive in Europe with the UK out of the EU. If continental Europeans want to stop speaking English (the only actual Anglo-Saxon influence to speak of) that's fine by me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    What is Germany if not a puppet of the USA?
    Ever heard about the Atlantikbrücke? As you can speak German, you will easily find out that every important person in German politics, media and art is openly member of it and that the whole purpose of this organisation is transatlanticism on the expense of Germany.
    I think the only relevant force in Europe that wanted independence from the USA was the Gaulism movement in France, but that's also a dead movement by now.
    In Germany only die Linke and AfD have are against the US influence, but they are a joke when it comes to support in the population and influence.
    So Brexit has changed absolutely nothing in regards to the US influence on the EU and every country within the EU.
    The Ukraine conflict in fact increased the influence, look at Sweden and Finland's desire to join NATO now, which makes you a puppet state.
    The difference is Germany is under american military occupation, they have no own foreign policy, this is not true for England which is a sovereign country. I would not call Germany as puppet state, its just an occupied american military zone or a colony as you wish.

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