Are Turks or Iranians whiter?

[Elliot]

okay.
answer please.

[Elliot]

Ethnic Persians are darker than ethnic Anatolian Turks.

Ethnic Anatolian Turks have more ANF ancestry and that makes them lighter.

Where do Uzbek and Turkmen European-like ancestry come from?
Northern Europe rates are high

[Guti]

Where do Uzbek and Turkmen European-like ancestry come from?
Northern Europe rates are high

I don't know. They know better, you should ask them.


All I know is that ethnic Persians (unmixed) and other Western Iranics (Kurds included) are of a different racial stock than Turks and Europeans.


Aryan or Western Iranics are of a Caucaso-Iranic racial stock and genetically very, very similar to the original proto-Indo-Europeans. Just compare CHG, Irn_ChL, Irn_IA to the modern Western Iranics and you will notice how much kinship there is between the ancient and modern people of the Caucasus/Northwestern Iranian Plateau.

[Elliot]

I don't know. They know better, you should ask them.


All I know is that ethnic Persians (unmixed) and other Western Iranics (Kurds included) are of a different racial stock than Turks and Europeans.


Aryan or Western Iranics are of a Caucaso-Iranic racial stock and genetically very, very similar to the original proto-Indo-Europeans. Just compare CHG, Irn_ChL, Irn_IA to the modern Western Iranics and you will notice how much kinship there is between the ancient and modern people of the Caucasus/Northwestern Iranian Plateau.

Some see Indo-European as a race rather than a culture, which is why they refer to Iranians and Indians as the same race as Europeans.
Iranians are originally a Caucasian people, of course there is an Indian contribution. They provided a cultural integrity with the Indo-European migrations.
Caucasian Iranian breed might be the right term. But why are Turks seen as Mongols?

[Pro.crasti.nation]

New Sweden?

[Anaximander]

In my opinion, Iranians are whitter racially, because they lack the Turanid elements, which are totally alien to white race, despite the fact that they are a bit darker in complexion. There are Iranians who can totally pass in Europe, like this football player

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[Guti]

Some see Indo-European as a race rather than a culture, which is why they refer to Iranians and Indians as the same race as Europeans.
Iranians are originally a Caucasian people, of course there is an Indian contribution. They provided a cultural integrity with the Indo-European migrations.
Caucasian Iranian breed might be the right term. But why are Turks seen as Mongols?

Why do you ask questions that you can answer by yourself?


That's because we are 6000 years later. Human evolution and time don't stand still. People are continuously mixing with other people and evolve into new people.

Indians, Iranians and Europeans are all of different races. But Iranians and Europeans belong to Western Eurasian races, while Indians belong to a South Asian race.

Since Immanuel Kant (On the Different Races of Man (Über die verschiedenen Rassen der Menschen, 1775) Hindus have been seen as a different race from the Western Eurasians.


Europeans = White race = Western Eurasian
(Western) Iranics = Caucaso-Iranic race = Western Eurasian
Indians = Hindu race = South Asian

It is true that people to Southeast of Iran have by far more Hindu ancestry than people who live in the north-western parts of Iran.
But NorthWestern Iran/Kurdistan and Caucasus are the birthplace of the Caucaso-Iranic race also know as CHG/Irn_ChL people.


Which Turks, because there are many types of Turks. Turkic language and the original Turkic culture and religion are from Central Asia. There are still Turkic people who speak a Turkic language living in the original Turkic homeland in Central Asia. Anatolian Turks are closely related to the Turkic speaking population in Central Asia. There is a clear link between the Anatolian Turks and the Uyghurs in China.

I think Mongols is a synonym for the 'Eastern Eurasians'. If Mongols were 'Eastern Eurasians' and ancient Turkic people were 'Eastern Eurasians' that makes Turks similar to the Mongols, right?

[zarzian]

Neither are white though you can find whites in both populations. But Turks are diluted due to slavic admixture therefor more abundance of “white” instances.

[Babak]

Neither are white though you can find whites in both populations. But Turks are diluted due to slavic admixture therefor more abundance of “white” instances.

Bro youre here after a hundred years hahah

[zarzian]

The new Southern Arc paper pulled me back in lol