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  • The historically Protestant and Catholic countries of Europe and their New World descendants except Latin America

    22 43.14%
  • All of Europe, including the Orthodox, along with the New World except Latin America

    9 17.65%
  • All of Europe, all of the New World, plus Israel

    5 9.80%
  • Protestant and Catholic countries of Europe, plus the New World excepting Latin America, plus Israel

    3 5.88%
  • All of Europe excluding America and possibly other parts of the New World

    0 0%
  • Other (please elaborate)

    12 23.53%
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Thread: What is Western Civilization?

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    Western civilization includes Latin America, despite the obvious racial disadvantages of the bulk of the population. Alabama contains many Negroes, but is still part of the West, much as London is. And so are the Latin American states.*


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Featherston View Post
    Western civilization includes Latin America, despite the obvious racial disadvantages of the bulk of the population. Alabama contains many Negroes, but is still part of the West, much as London is. And so are the Latin American states.*


    *Other than Haiti
    The question of Latin America is fuzzier among racialists than it is among actual academics. But just out of curiosity do you think blacks or Indians in Latin America are as likely to identify with Western culture as American blacks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    The question of Latin America is fuzzier among racialists than it is among actual academics. But just out of curiosity do you think blacks or Indians in Latin America are as likely to identify with Western culture as American blacks?
    Almost certainly not, but some of those countries are majority White, and all of them are dominated by at least a White minority political, cultural, and financial elite. Its Latin America, after all, not Mayan America.
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    White countries with catholic and protestant background. At most all Europeans can be considered "Western" but my guess is that only non-Europeans that don't know much about us see it that way.

    Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations" seems fairly accurate,although I'd consider Romania a more special case of "Eastern Civilization"(then again maybe it's just me),also Oriental Orthodoxy(see Armenia) should be unique.




    Red is Oriental Orthodoxy and Blue is Eastern Orthodoxy:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Featherston View Post
    Almost certainly not, but some of those countries are majority White, and all of them are dominated by at least a White minority political, cultural, and financial elite. Its Latin America, after all, not Mayan America.
    The question really is whether Latin America is so mixed, basically from the start, that it doesn't constitute its own distinct, hybrid civilization. Mexico, for example, is by far the largest of the ex-Spanish holdings and its entire national identity is based on a hybridization and meeting of cultures in the form of Cortes breeding with an Indian, Dona Marina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unurautare View Post
    White countries with catholic and protestant background. At most all Europeans can be considered "Western" but my guess is that only non-Europeans that don't know much about us see it that way.

    Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations" seems fairly accurate,although I'd consider Romania a more special case of "Eastern Civilization"(then again maybe it's just me),also Oriental Orthodoxy(see Armenia) should be unique.




    Red is Oriental Orthodoxy and Blue is Eastern Orthodoxy:

    The question of Greece is complex and even Romania and Bulgaria are included more than, say, Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    The question of Greece is complex and even Romania and Bulgaria are included more than, say, Russia.
    Greece is Eastern,not Western. Greeks are the center from where "Eastern" came from to begin with. And Armenians are different from Greeks(*Orientals).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unurautare View Post
    Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations" seems fairly accurate,although I'd consider Romania a more special case of "Eastern Civilization"(then again maybe it's just me),also Oriental Orthodoxy(see Armenia) should be unique.

    Its interesting that Huntington puts The Philippines in with the vast bulk of Latin America. According to the strictures of his more multi-polar world, that kind of makes sense.

    Grouping Burma, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Sri Lanka and Bhutan, along with Mongolia however, seems much more questionable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Featherston View Post
    Its interesting that Huntington puts The Philippines in with the vast bulk of Latin America. According to the strictures of his more multi-polar world, that kind of makes sense.

    Grouping Burma, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Sri Lanka and Bhutan, along with Mongolia however, seems much more questionable.
    His view seems mostly based on religion(how religious people view/perceive the world).

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