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Thread: Hypothesis: Bosnians are more similar to Serbs then to Croats culturally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosnian_flower View Post
    Well islam will only get weaker in Bosnia as time passes. Young people are secular and do not even know how to pray, and west is pushing on us the modern values like LGBT...and the conservative party SDA lost elections,so it shows people will become more and more secular

    I personally consider my self agnostic, but i come from a muslim bosnian family(but they are not religious)
    Well, adopting LBGT won't be any better. I wish all the best to Bosniaks, but to avoid degeneration imposed on other Europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Serbian community in Germany is one of the best integeated and productive there. There is a lot of high educated people among them in recent time. In the past they were mostly workers known as gesterbeiters, but not in the last 20 years. Criminals were always tiny minoriry of total Serbs in Germany, they had peak in 1980s.
    Serbian mafia operates in entire western Europe including in Germany and Serbs are in top 15 of most criminal foreigners in Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Well, adopting LBGT won't be any better. I wish all the best to Bosniaks, but to avoid degeneration imposed on other Europeans.
    Hopefully we will stay sane. But when it comes to turks and arabs, read any bosnian forum and you will see people disslike them

    turkish students in Sarajevo( no idea why they come? maybe SDA brought,thank God SDA lost) and people have got to know what kind of people they are, thats why they have become so antiturkish and antiarab

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Serbian mafia operates in entire western Europe including in Germany and Serbs are in top 15 of most criminal foreigners in Germany.
    Mafia is a organisation not represantive of a entire nation. It is like saying all Italians are mafia, or "Italians are mafia". And i think there might be gypsies from serbia who steal who came as assylym seekers, because i guess most actual serbs are german citizens and wouldnt appear as "serbs" in the statistic but as "germans". Im sure austrians do not have the stereotype of "serbs" as "thieves" of "gypsies yes" not of "serbs". Serb means maybe worker, and recently they also graduated in many fields in universities, but historically it means "laborer"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Mafia is a organisation not represantive of a entire nation. It is like saying all Italians are mafia, or "Italians are mafia". And i think there might be gypsies from serbia who steal who came as assylym seekers, because i guess most actual serbs are german citizens and wouldnt appear as "serbs" in the statistic but as "germans". Im sure austrians do not have the stereotype of "serbs" as "thieves" of "gypsies yes" not of "serbs". Serb means maybe worker, and recently they also graduated in many fields in universities, but historically it means "laborer"
    That's true, but let's not pretend such Mafia and criminal organisations didn't create bad stereotypes for "Yugos" and "Balkanites" in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    That's true, but let's not pretend such Mafia and criminal organisations didn't create bad stereotypes for "Yugos" and "Balkanites" in general.
    Maybe they did italian mafia did that too and there were many movies and such, and italians were seen as mafia, but they didnt liked it, they still hate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Maybe they did italian mafia did that too and there were many movies and such, and italians were seen as mafia, but they didnt liked it, they still hate it.
    Because native north Italians have nothing to do with mafia, it's a tribal and poor southerner thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Serbian mafia operates in entire western Europe including in Germany and Serbs are in top 15 of most criminal foreigners in Germany.
    There is no Serbian mafia as organized structure. Exist only some smaller group or individuals of Serbian origin, but their destination of work is not Germany (it was in 1980s). Montenegrin mafia exist in similar form as Albanian mafia, actually Montenegro is mafia state like Kosovo.
    Serbian medical doctor and nurses go to Germany in large numbers for years and there is no end of that. Also engineers and other experts, but especially medical workers. It is huge tragedy for all Balkan nation. Their native countries educated them and they just left them and move in Germany or some other western country.
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    Croats don't have mafia, but we helped create bad image of "Yugos" in Sweden by having comitted terror acts in 1970s:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Y...bassy_shooting

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandi...tem_Flight_130

    However, I don't see how this contradicts what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    There is no Serbian mafija as organized structure.
    There is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_mafia

    Serbian organized crime or Serbian mafia (Serbian: Cpпска мафија / Srpska mafija) are various criminal organizations based in Serbia or composed of ethnic Serbs in the former Yugoslavia and Serbian diaspora. The organizations are primarily involved in smuggling, arms trafficking, drug trafficking, human trafficking, assassinations, heists, assault, protection rackets, murder, money laundering and illegal gambling. The mafia is composed of several major organized groups, which in turn have wider networks throughout Europe and across the world.

    It includes some highly successful groups, including one of the largest cocaine import enterprises in Europe "Groupa Amerika", and the "YACS" Crime Group, out of NYC.

    Serbian mafia is made up of several major international criminal organizations, specializes for cocaine trade, each of them has annual income of several billions. Two of them are declared as the most powerful in Europe, (Cartel "Los Balcanes" and "Group America").

    It has established a direct connection with the majority of cocaine producers, purchasing drugs directly from South American producers, selling them only to wholesalers operating in Europe.

    During the period when the cigarette mafia operated, Serbian mafia earned about 100 billion dollars.

    Serbian mafia today, is estimated to earn €62 billion annually, their annual earnings on the cocaine market in Europe are worth €5.4 billion Euros. According to the DEA, alone cartel Tito y Dino is estimated at 23 billion euros on cocaine market.In June 2013, the world renowned magazine Forbes published a list of the richest mafia bosses in the world, Serbian drug lord Darko Šarić, was in a high fifth place, he is estimated to have assets worth of 27 billion dollars.

    According to estimates by the DEA and Europol, Serbian cartel known as "Los Balcanes", send about 500 tons of cocaine annually to the Old Continent. The boss of everything was the Serb, Dejan Stanimirovic, who was wanted by more than 30 countries.

    One of the most significant mafias in Scandinavia is the Serbian-Montenegrin mafia in Scandinavia, also known as “Juggemaffian” (“Yugo Mafia”). The foundations of the gang began during the mass immigration of Yugoslav guest-workers to Sweden in the 1970s. "

    Exist only some smaller group or individuals of Serbian origin, but their destination of work is not Germany (it was in 1980s). Montenegrin mafia exist in similar form as Albanian mafia, actually Montenegro is mafia state like Kosovo.
    Serbian medical doctor and nurses go to Germany in large numbers for years and there is no end of that. Also engineers and other experts, but especially medical workers. It is huge tragedy for all Balkan nation. Their native countries educated them and they just left them and move in Germany or some other western country.
    I agree with this. Yes, we are losing our human capital to Germany en masse.

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