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    What is so great about Russia &/or Russians? What is there about the Russian state in 2009 to admire & should be emulated by other countries? Are Russians a European people or a Europid/Tatar/Middle Eastern mongrel race? Is there anything about Russia or Russians to like? What are the contribution of Russians to the greater civilization of mankind?
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    Oh sh*t, this should be interesting!!

    I'll comment later...
    Last edited by Thorum; 04-13-2009 at 01:30 PM.

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    As long as they continue to be a nuisance for the rest of Europe and for the countries around them in particular I can feel little more then outright enmity for Russia and Russians.

    If you want to know my reasons for my dislike for Russia and Russians a good history book would enlighten you (or if you want to look at contemporary Russia: any newspaper dating back to Summer 2008/ Winter 2008/2009 )



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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    What is so great about Russia &/or Russians?
    They are expansionist and like to rule over other nations ... i.e. a very European characteristic. They are competitive; put the first man in space, and have in many ways dominated space exploration, along with the US. The competition between these two countries resulted in many discoveries and advancement. Competition is good and necessary for civilization to advance.

    Many other things, but I thought I'd just mention that to start discussion going.

    What is there about the Russian state in 2009 to admire & should be emulated by other countries?
    The fact that Russia has risen from the ashes of post-Soviet humiliation, to become another force to be reckoned with ... even in the face of a constant barrage of anti-Russian sentiment being orchestrated by the most powerful country in the world, the USA. Their resilience ... something which is very Russian.

    Are Russians a European people or a Europid/Tatar/Middle Eastern mongrol race?
    According to all respectable sources, Russians are a European (Slavic) people.

    Is there anything about Russia or Russians to like?
    Loads.

    What are the contribution of Russians to the greater civilization of mankind?
    The arms race and space race of the Cold War has done more for technological advancement than anything else since WW2. Russian scientists are brilliant and sought-after. Many of them have, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, emigrated to the US and made positive contributions there.

    Without Russia, the world would be a hegemony of the United States and the EU, and where these can dictate with impunity their particular version of the world order ... which is frequently unpalatable. Russia, along with China, present a necessary counterbalance that restricts excessiveness and unfairness from the West.
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    Russia's a pretty cool guy, he bashes queers and doesn't afraid of anything.

    Haha, but seriously, what do you expect? Russia is where East meets West. It is an empire or sorts and this empire (of sorts) is due to the efforts of European people(s).

    I'd much rather listen to reasons why people don't like Russia and attempt to either refute or concede them, issue by issue.

    As it stands...

    1) I think Putin's a pretty cool guy.

    2) There are too many immigrants in Russia.

    3) The world is biased against Russians. It was bad for them to invade Georgia when their own citizens were under attack, but perfectly alright for the USA to rape the Middle East?

    4) Russia needs to flex it's muscles more. It will be a step towards a more multipolar world order - the way the world is inevitably going.

    5) I do not, at all, like the US interfering in the so called "defence" of Europe. In my book Russia has a much greater claim for that role. Forget the USSR atrocities and the USA being the so called saviours of Europe, that portion os history is dramatically distorted and both of these entities exist in history now and in history alone.
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    My opinion about them is generally positive.

    What's so great about them? Pretty much most of the same attributes which apply to other Euro cultures I guess. Good engineering and scientific capabilities, good writers, good musicians, artists, actors. An ability to survive and endure. Good sense of humour. Loyal friends who "have your back". Charming, generous, NOT PC at all, lol. Intelligent, well educated.

    Sure there are boneheads and stupids amongst them but that's Universal.

    As for them being "a nuisance to Europe", imo Europe, NATO and the US are making more of a nuisance of themselves to Russia who then responds in kind. Six of the one, half-dozen of the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorum View Post
    Oh sh*t, this should be interesting!!

    I'll comment later...
    Better hide this one from the missus......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    They are expansionist and like to rule over other nations ... i.e. a very European characteristic. They are competitive; put the first man in space, and have in many ways dominated space exploration, along with the US. The competition between these two countries resulted in many discoveries and advancement. Competition is good and necessary for civilization to advance.
    Like the U.S.A they were using Nazi scientists. Most of the preliminary work before the actual space programs was carried out by the Nazi's with their V-weapons.
    Hardly Russian or American for that matter: but German.
    The jet engine that of course played a mayor part was a Romanian invention (Henri Coandă, 1910)


    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The fact that Russia has risen from the ashes of post-Soviet humiliation, to become another force to be reckoned with ... even in the face of a constant barrage of anti-Russian sentiment being orchestrated by the most powerful country in the world, the USA. Their resilience ... something which is very Russian.
    Russian resilience is indeed reflected on their population that has been declining for the last 20 or so years.
    They have lots of resources- but they barely have the know-how, have awfully corrupt politicians and no democratic tradition. When, BTW, was the last time you saw something marked "Made in Russia" ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    According to all respectable sources, Russians are a European (Slavic) people.
    Fine. Sorry but a Slavic language and a white skin alone does not make you European.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The arms race and space race of the Cold War has done more for technological advancement than anything else since WW2. Russian scientists are brilliant and sought-after. Many of them have, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, emigrated to the US and made positive contributions there.
    As I said- most of the preliminary work by the Nazi's and o.k it is a fact that Russian scientists are sought after. The Soviet education system was in essence a very good system although it robbed people of any self reliance or initiative. Most of the scientists emigrated because the (political) situation at home was unbearable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Without Russia, the world would be a hegemony of the United States and the EU, and where these can dictate with impunity their particular version of the world order ... which is frequently unpalatable. Russia, along with China, present a necessary counterbalance that restricts excessiveness and unfairness from the West.
    I don't think so. China would provide the counterbalance. Many people seem to underestimate China (and India)...
    Last edited by The Lawspeaker; 04-13-2009 at 02:01 PM.



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    I strongly dislike Russia/Sovjet and it probably has alot to do with my finnish ancestry, my relatives defended their land against Sovjet with their blood and bullets. Still large parts of what should be Finland now belongs to Russia. Largest part of finnish immigration is "russians" who come from old finnish land.

    They raped and burned their way through northern Finland (so did the germans).

    Modern day Russia I associate with corruption, decadence and poverty. Those russians who come to Sweden aren't really the sharpest knives in the box so to say, they bring criminality just like the arabs and Jugoslavs.

    If russians stay in Russia I have no problem with them but I don't want them anywhere near me and I feel sorry for those countries that are neighbours with Russia.

    These are my opinions about Russia, there are probably decent russians also but I have never meet one that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    What is so great about Russia &/or Russians?
    The Russian country extends from Eastern Europe to the Bering Strait.The Russians are an egrarious people who tend to love their country, enjoy life and are loyal to their own, from what I've observed.We could learn from them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    What is there about the Russian state in 2009 to admire & should be emulated by other countries??
    They're making an effort to return to the world stage as a proper power.They retain cultural traditions and take pride in them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    Are Russians a European people or a Europid/Tatar/Middle Eastern mongrel race?
    According to everything I've read about them, they are largely an East Slavic people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    Is there anything about Russia or Russians to like?
    Plenty.I've always found them to be tactful to the point of being diplomatic, generous, nice and decent people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    What are the contribution of Russians to the greater civilization of mankind?
    Well, let's see.They've advanced humanity's knowledge of the cosmos a great deal, they've served as an Eastern barrier to Islamic expansion, they've developed vodka, they've preserved Slavonic paganism much as Scandinavia's preserved Germanic heathenism(thank you, Iceland!! ) and they've got their own share of authors and philosophers who have contributed to the intellectual development of mankind.
    Last edited by Gooding; 04-13-2009 at 02:41 PM. Reason: shout out to the Icelanders.They're awesome, too

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