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    Default Ancient calculator - F edition

    Expanded and changed a bit Davidski gold standard calc, try it on.

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    TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic,0.0967497,0.1777177,-0.0084223,-0.1192957,0.0318003,-0.0573583,-0.0014883,-0.0179993,0.0212023,0.0619603,0.0145607,0.0041963,-0.016551,0.0077527,-0.0313967,-0.027932,0.003955,0.0011403,0.0198183,-0.0136733,-0.011563,0.008738,-0.0043547,0.0062257,-0.0074643
    RUS_Karelia_HG,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.129855,0.2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
    ITA_Villabruna,0.121791,0.114755,0.18592,0.184111,0.156337,0.060798,0.020211,0.035998,0.092445,0.018041,-0.016239,-0.016186,0.016947,-0.010046,0.054017,0.067356,0.000782,0.005448,-0.008422,0.053526,0.100073,0.010758,-0.048313,-0.163517,0.01928
    GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
    BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
    Dinka,-0.577083,0.050776,-0.000377,-0.00751,-0.005386,-0.001673,-0.017685,0.020422,0.081145,-0.09695,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.038317,-0.00117,0.010145,-0.021347,0.018612,-0.009438,0.024197,-0.024168,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.000904,0.0097
    ETH_4500BP,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
    IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
    Jarawa,-0.021982,-0.243028,-0.132416,0.098697,0.032372,-0.004584,-0.01012,0.006505,0.054697,0.023805,0.022806,0.002735,-0.004153,0.010356,-0.010807,-0.011444,0.009453,-0.001908,-0.006222,0.028678,-0.00464,0.011136,-0.01234,0.002267,0.004985
    MAR_Taforalt,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
    Yoruba,-0.630062,0.062501,0.022113,0.016708,0.000503,0.012474,-0.044417,0.047767,-0.048881,0.032769,0.004621,0.00079,0.023056,0.000951,0.012523,-0.009607,0.007076,0.000449,0.006022,-0.00299,0.001554,0.002316,-0.001759,-0.000471,-0.000425
    CHN_Yellow_River_LN,0.0166466,-0.4503874,0.0109365,-0.0657709,0.0545101,0.0217886,0.0037894,0.0012404,-0.0097149,0.0040092,-0.0851524,-0.0100032,0.0123945,-0.0059179,-0.0088896,-0.000895,0.001483,-0.0003801,-0.0048392,-0.0075191,0.0172975,0.007543,0.0128639,-0.0006476,0.0073496
    Levant_Natufian_EpiP,0.0267485,0.143697,-0.030924,-0.138245,0.034468,-0.0805995,-0.0179785,-0.0201915,0.112693,0.0056495,0.0286615,-0.02248,0.0766345,-0.001239,0.0138435,0.006033,-0.0107565,-0.0005705,-0.0194205,0.0322655,0.003556,-0.000804,-0.0025885,-0.0037355,0.004371

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    Target: ivan
    Distance: 4.7434% / 0.04743363
    62.2 TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic
    17.6 RUS_Karelia_HG
    14.8 ITA_Villabruna
    3.6 GEO_CHG
    1.0 MAR_Taforalt
    0.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

    weird results i don't usually get this and the distance for me is very high for this typeof calcs i usually get a distance of 2 or 1.9


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    Quote Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain View Post
    Target: ivan
    Distance: 4.7434% / 0.04743363
    62.2 TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic
    17.6 RUS_Karelia_HG
    14.8 ITA_Villabruna
    3.6 GEO_CHG
    1.0 MAR_Taforalt
    0.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

    weird results i don't usually get this and the distance for me is very high for this typeof calcs i usually get a distance of 2 or 1.9
    Distance is irrelevant. Those are extremely old componments, as pure as possible, and being close to them would be weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Distance is irrelevant. Those are extremely old componments, as pure as possible, and being close to them would be weird.
    this is what i get in the original one:

    Target: ivan
    Distance: 3.0590% / 0.03058987
    56.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    11.4 WHG
    3.6 MAR_Taforalt

    is very different

    and this one with corded ware:

    Target: ivan
    Distance: 1.5294% / 0.01529393
    37.8 Corded_Ware_Early(POL_CZE_BALTIC_GER)
    32.4 Western_EEF(ESP_FRA_ENG)
    17.2 Eastern_EEF(DEU_HUN_AUT)
    5.0 Levant_PPNB
    3.4 MAR_Taforalt
    2.6 Maykop_Kura_Araxes(RUS_ARM)
    1.6 Balto_Slavic_HG_Simulated


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    I have highest WHG plus CHG and lowest EHG out of all Croats tested I have real coords of:


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    Quote Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain View Post
    this is what i get in the original one:

    Target: ivan
    Distance: 3.0590% / 0.03058987
    56.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    11.4 WHG
    3.6 MAR_Taforalt

    is very different

    and this one with corded ware:

    Target: ivan
    Distance: 1.5294% / 0.01529393
    37.8 Corded_Ware_Early(POL_CZE_BALTIC_GER)
    32.4 Western_EEF(ESP_FRA_ENG)
    17.2 Eastern_EEF(DEU_HUN_AUT)
    5.0 Levant_PPNB
    3.4 MAR_Taforalt
    2.6 Maykop_Kura_Araxes(RUS_ARM)
    1.6 Balto_Slavic_HG_Simulated
    Your point being? It's a different calc, I don't use Yamnaya, use different EEF, WHG samples and several other stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Your point being? It's a different calc, I don't use Yamnaya, use different EEF, WHG samples and several other stuff.
    Ah ok then RUS_Karelia_HG is not a yamnaya? i thought it was a yamnaya sample, sorry for my ignorance


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    Quote Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain View Post
    Ah ok then RUS_Karelia_HG is not a yamnaya? i thought it was a yamnaya sample, sorry for my ignorance
    No problem. Karelia HG is Eastern Hunter Gatherer. Yamnaya was part EHG. There is another EHG sample from Samara (HG), but I ran some tests and Karelian one came out purer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Y...f.
    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 5.3072% / 0.05307233

    60.6 TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic
    17.6 RUS_Karelia_HG
    17.4 ITA_Villabruna
    4.2 GEO_CHG
    0.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

    Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
    Distance: 4.9946% / 0.04994610

    65.2 TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic
    18.4 RUS_Karelia_HG
    13.4 ITA_Villabruna
    1.2 GEO_CHG
    1.2 MAR_Taforalt
    0.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

    Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
    Distance: 5.8380% / 0.05838007

    59.8 TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic
    20.0 RUS_Karelia_HG
    17.8 ITA_Villabruna
    2.4 GEO_CHG

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain View Post
    Ah ok then RUS_Karelia_HG is not a yamnaya? i thought it was a yamnaya sample, sorry for my ignorance
    It´s just a different point of view, we all are used to the ancient standard model, but there are many options.

    In the end it is something similar, a proto-Neolithic from Anatolia, the traditional WHG and the novelty of some components prior to the Yamanya...etc with which they could be modeled.

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