The Irish,Scots and Welsh people are not Celtic?

[Argyll]

That's just total garbage. Old garbage too.

I 100% agree.

[Onychodus]

What was the fate of Picts?

[Argyll]

What was the fate of Picts?

Their fate would be the Gaelicization that went on in Scotland during that time. That's how the Pictish language died. The Picts themselves didn't die out, contrary to the belief that had the Gaels commit genocide. The Picts themselves, were a Celtic people. A lot of evidence that supports this is that their own language, which we hardly know anything about, shows that it was a Brythonic P-Lanuage.

Source- Scotland: A History

But the study could not determine whether the common genetic traits meant "Celtic" nations would look alike or have similar temperaments. Dark or red hair and freckles are considered Celtic features.
Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211427/posts

Celts had blonde hair too. They were quite known for it.

[Septentrion]

I completely disgree with this. Irish,Welsh,Scots are Celts! Red hair is common in all areas settled by Celts. From the Celtic fringe, Brittany, Galicia(Iberia),Wallonia,Switzerland to their frontier Galatia in Turkey.

[morski]

I completely disgree with this. Irish,Welsh,Scots are Celts! Red hair is common in all areas settled by Celts. From the Celtic fringe, Brittany, Galicia(Iberia),Wallonia,Switzerland to their frontier Galatia in Turkey.

And also to Mordva and Udmurtia.

[Smaug]

Celtic is a cultural term. It is like saying someone is Jewish. There isn't a Jewish ethnicity, but still, they keep united through common cultural traits. The same happens with modern Celts.

They aren't Celtic in the very sense of the word. What the modern populations of Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Brittany, Isle of Man and Cornwall are is nothing more and nothing less than Celticised indigenous Northwestern European populations.

When Celts arrived there coming from the continent, the region was already inhabited. These newcomers mixed with the native population and gave rise to the modern populations of these places, and that's why today they share common linguistic, cultural and genetic traits.

[Jackson]

And also to Mordva and Udmurtia.

Also the Celtic populations are genetically most related to some other northern Celtic peoples such as the Bretons, and next to Germanic populations...British Isles Celts, Ibero-Celts, and Central European Celts seem to be three distinct peoples. In this way the term 'Celtic' is probably the most broad ethno-cultural term in Europe. More so than Germanic and especially much more so than Slavic - Slavic populations all seem to be very closely related, particularly through IBD (shared segments of DNA). I think the notion of a Celtic ethnicity is false, unless we are talking about one of these three main groups specifically.

[Neon Knight]

Celts were never a single race; Celtic was a culture/language which spread from central Europe westwards. However, since Irish, Scots, Welsh and Bretons were/are the last surviving speakers of Celtic languages and are racially close then it is reasonable to call them Celts. As long as we know what we are talking about.

[JeanBaMac]

Irish, Scots And Welsh Not Celtic - Scientist
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Posted on Fri Sep 10 2004 00:59:23 GMT+0200 (Västeuropa, sommartid) by blam

Irish, Scots and Welsh not Celts - scientists

September 09 2004 at 08:15PM

Dublin - Celtic nations like Ireland and Scotland have more in common with the Portuguese and Spanish than with "Celts" - the name commonly used for a group of people from ancient Alpine Europe, scientists say.

"There is a received wisdom that the origin of the people of these islands lie in invasions or migrations... but the affinities don't point eastwards to a shared origin," said Daniel Bradley, co-author of a genetic study into Celtic origins.

Early historians believed the Celts - thought to have come from an area to the east of modern France and south of Germany - invaded the Atlantic islands around 2 500 years ago.

But archaeologists have recently questioned that theory and now Bradley, from Trinity College Dublin, and his team, say DNA evidence supports their thinking.

Affinities don't point eastwards to a shared origin Geneticists used DNA samples from people living in Celtic nations and compared the genetic traits with those of people in other parts of Europe.

The study showed people in Celtic areas: Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Brittany and Cornwall, had strong genetic ties, but that this heritage had more in common with people from the Iberian peninsula.

"What we would propose is that this commonality among the Atlantic facade is much older... 6 000 years ago or earlier," Bradley told Reuters.

He said people may have moved up from areas around modern-day Portugal and Spain at the end of the Ice Age.

The similarities between Atlantic "Celts" could also suggest these areas had good levels of communications with one another, he added.

But the study could not determine whether the common genetic traits meant "Celtic" nations would look alike or have similar temperaments. Dark or red hair and freckles are considered Celtic features.

Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211427/posts

Total bullshit. The common genes shared by British Islanders and Spaniards are mostly of Celtic origin.
And British people have far more common genes with Northern Frenchs and Southern Germans than with Iberians.

[Grace O'Malley]

Total bullshit. The common genes shared by British Islanders and Spaniards are mostly of Celtic origin.
And British people have far more common genes with Northern Frenchs and Southern Germans than with Iberians.

Northern French and the British Isles appear to have a lot of shared genes.