Debunk theories about the ancestry of Greek people

**Konstantinos Kara** · 02-07-2023, 08:10 PM

Albanian propaganda:Epirus is inhabited by albanians!

Distance to: ITA_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_2:I10950
0.03089386 Albanian
0.03452135 Albanian_Cham_Epirus:2
0.04421061 Albanian_Cham_Epirus:1
0.04605910 Greek_Epirus:Epirus2
0.04902700 Greek_Epirus:Epirus1
0.05090623 Greek_Epirus:Epirus3
0.05325609 Greek_Epirus:Epirus4
0.07552356 ITA_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_1:I10948

The differentiation between the Illyrian and the Greek DNA exists up to 7.5 in the genetic distances on Vahaduo,where 0.75=10%.So the Greeks of Epirus with number 4.97,have (removing the Slavic DNA) 33.7-16.6=17.1% Illyrian genetic code.I removed the Slavic genetic code,because Vahaduo shows it as Yamnaya on the ancient sample.The chams of Albania derive around 34,6% Illyrian ancestry.

North_Macedonian propaganda:Ancient Macedonians were not greeks!

Distance to: Polish
0.07767837 Macedonian
0.09307405 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.10815967 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.10868184 Greek_Macedonia

Slavic DNA of these Populations
Macedonian=32,2%
Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace=25,3%
Greek_Central_Macedonia=18,6%
Greek_Macedonia=18,4%

Distance to: Bulgarian
0.01457343 Macedonian
0.01955655 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.02854038 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03006134 Greek_Macedonia

Genetic Simularity with Bulgarians
Macedonian=90%
Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace=87%
Greek_Central_Macedonia=81%
Greek_Macedonia=80%

According to these stats,North Macedonians cant be the direct descedants of the ancient Macedonians

SOS:I know that some of them may be false,but i am a newbie in genetics.I want you to show some understanding and tell me where there is an error and what I can do that is more valid

**MandM** · 02-11-2023, 02:44 PM

Well techneclly they could, its just that the mixed with slavic population more then lets say the northern Greeks, if North Macedonians now are 32% slavic what are the other 68%?

**Tani** · 02-11-2023, 03:20 PM

Why are you using samples from Sicily ? Also Illyrians were different during the Roman period compared to IA and more South-East. Slavic ancestry pulled people more north. Modern Greeks are a bit more north and a bit genetically different from Ancient Greeks too. Proto-Illyrian culture was also found in Ancient Greece where several J-L283 were found. Southern Albania and part of Macedonia were inhabited by an Illyrian population.

**Konstantinos Kara** · 02-14-2023, 09:18 PM

The other 68% can be some greek in the south,illyrian on the east-northeast and probably paeonian

**Konstantinos Kara** · 02-14-2023, 09:23 PM

I used sicilian samples because they were newer than illyrian samples from croatia.Yes,slavic invasion made a huge impact in balkan people.Yes,south albania was inhabited by illyrian and greek tribes.So your point is that J-L283=Proto-Illyrian?