Why is this forum so reductive about European ancestry in the US?

**Incal** · 03-31-2023, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Creoda

But it's foreigners like yourself from Continental Europe or Latin America that refer to Americans blanketly as Anglo-Saxon or Anglo. I cringe whenever I see it.

It's mostly used for cultural purposes. It's even on Wikipedia for Christ's sake:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo

**rothaer** · 03-31-2023, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by Creoda

But it's foreigners like yourself from Continental Europe or Latin America that refer to Americans blanketly as Anglo-Saxon or Anglo. I cringe whenever I see it.

Yeah, but that's because the Brits have pulled the Americans out of their isolationism in 1917 and into an Anglo service. So this is a political-cultural assessment. And such a five-eyes-like political conglomerate remains till this very day regardless of who is today the servant of whom (that might well have changed in favour for the US). Btw. no wonder that the search for MH 370 was directed entirely into a reliable five-eyes theater area, lol. And that based on data only from - surprise - another five-eyes country (UK). However, the Americans are politically totally merged into the Anglo sphere.

**Creoda** · 03-31-2023, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by Incal

It's mostly used for cultural purposes. It's even on Wikipedia for Christ's sake:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo

Amongst native English speakers, 'Anglo' (grammatically retarded on it's own) broadly refers to people of English, or at least British Isles descent. It's not just a cultural term.

Originally Posted by rothaer

Yeah, but that's because the Brits have pulled the Americans out of their isolationism in 1917 and into an Anglo service. So this is a political-cultural assessment. And such a five-eyes-like political conglomerate remains till this very day regardless of who is today the servant of whom (that might well have changed in favour for the US). Btw. no wonder that the search for MH 370 was directed entirely into a reliable five-eyes theater area, lol. And that based on data only from - surprise - another five-eyes country (UK). However, the Americans are politically totally merged into the Anglo sphere.

So America became Anglo in 1917

Ironically that's around when the US started to become non-Anglocentric politically and culturally (the beginning of Hollywood and Jewish financial power).

**Mingle** · 03-31-2023, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by Creoda

But it's foreigners like yourself from Continental Europe or Latin America that refer to Americans blanketly as Anglo-Saxon or Anglo. I cringe whenever I see it.

Even Americans don't correct you much if you use "Anglo" generally for Americans, but will correct you if you use "English". One is frequently used while the other rarely is even though they're the exact same word. I guess this is cause "Anglo" has become shorthand for "Anglosphere" while "English" remains tied to England.

**Anglo-Celtic** · 03-31-2023, 01:35 AM

Where did the OP go? I guess that Creoda's post spooked him (maps and statistics can terrify individuals with agendas and vendettas). I just wing it when I reply to people on blatant crusades. It's common knowledge that the South is Anglo-Celtic with variations in degrees of both, as well as some extra ethnic spice added to the mix in some regions.

**Dragoon** · 03-31-2023, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by Creoda

But it's foreigners like yourself from Continental Europe or Latin America that refer to Americans blanketly as Anglo-Saxon or Anglo. I cringe whenever I see it.

Its kinda similar to how Americans call all sorts of mixed people from Latin America: Hispanic (even those without Spaniard ancestry). To a Spaniard that might be cringe.

From my expierence its Russian politics and news which calls America/The West "Anglo-saxon" improperly.

But Anglo can sometimes just mean language to outsiders.

I understand your point though.

**~~Laredo~~** · 03-31-2023, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Dragoon

Its kinda similar to how Americans call all sorts of mixed people from Latin America: Hispanic (even those without Spaniard ancestry). To a Spaniard that might be cringe.

From my expierence its Russian politics and news which calls America/The West "Anglo-saxon" improperly.

But Anglo can sometimes just mean language to outsiders.

I understand your point though.

I don't think so, Hispanic and Anglo are similar terms Anglopheres for the English speaking world, language, culture, ancestry etc. Same applies to the term Hispanic.

Ironically In the "Hispanic world" I've seen Spaniards trolling mexicans on the Reddit Mexico cultural sub-groups/community that we are Hispanic too.

Of course theres should be measurements, to me calling a Bolivian Hispanic would be the equivalent of calling an Afram Anglo so..

**Incal** · 03-31-2023, 05:02 AM

Seems most people here are still stuck in the 80's... Today we are living in a multipolar world. Comments like: "It's not chips! It's called crisps because in my town from Devonshire we say crisps!" belong to the past really.

**billErobreren** · 03-31-2023, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by Ruggery

According to this map the tip of the northeast has many people of French descent.

It's actually right, in that sense: French ancestry, sure, but not exclusively in most cases. What other admixtures do you reckon they have? Word to the wise, when Americans say they have X ancestry, it's 9 times out of ten, not that claimed one alone. That goes for anything British isles related too.

Originally Posted by Creoda

But it's foreigners like yourself from Continental Europe or Latin America that refer to Americans blanketly as Anglo-Saxon or Anglo. I cringe whenever I see it.

Made me cringe hardcore at one point. I haven't a drop of English or even lowland Scottish ancestry to merit that label, but I'm numb to it now. We're the mean bouncer of the Anglosphere club, without being a commonwealth country and hence, its face to the wider non-English speaking world. It's beyond retarded, but I can't be bothered to go out of my way to correct it, when I know people saying the same stupid shit outside the forum. It is what it is.

**Petalpusher** · 03-31-2023, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Laredo

Native ancestry among white americans its a myth in the other hands less than 3% white americans have some traces of 1-5 SSA ancestry.

That's nothing. Amerindian ancestry isn't nigger ancestry all It takes a mexican 75% European genes to look fully euro, with SSA admixed individuals probably 85%+

That rule is written somewhere? It's exactly what Colombia is on average based on genetic studies. The majority of the population is "white", as in not black or pred Amerindian but they don't look white in the European sense, they look way off. It's not even about a particular location in Europe, they just look off and mixed somehow, which they are (besides a few obvious tourists). Most of the "spectrally white" population have features that are completely alien to Europe. You might not see it because that's all you ve ever seen in your life, yet it's very obvious in all South America when you look at the real population.

I don't think the US will ever look like this, sure the proportion of groups living alonside each others will change but this is something else that would take hundreds of years, and need a complete dissolution of identity in the philosophical sense which im not sure old stock Americans are willing to accept that easily. There will be at least many holdouts.