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[OrthodoxHipster]

Major races
• Negroids

◦ Sub-saharan negroids

◦ Oceanic Negroids (e.g. Negritos, Papuans, Melanesians, etcetera)

• Caucasoids (e.g. Europeans, Japhethites, Japhethized Semites, Japhethized Hamites, Albinoes)
• Mongoloids (e.g. Sinites, Siberians, South Mongoloids)

Other races
• Flavos a.k.a. the MENASA race (e.g. Greater Mideasterners such as Semites, Hamites, Berbers, Caucasians, Turks, Iranians; Greater Indians such as Indo-Aryans, Dravidians, Romani, etcetera)
• Vedda-Austronesoids [e.g. Veddas, Pacific Islanders (excluding Negroforms), Austronesians]
• Americanoids a.k.a. Amerinjuns

Hybrid races
• Bronze / Mestize race (i.e. Mestizos, Ladinos, Métisses)
• Mulatters (i.e. Mulattos, Mulatresses)
• Whasians / Eurasians (e.g. Pamiris, Turanians)
• Blasians
• Pard / Dun race (i.e. Pardos such as Juçaras)
• Zambos (i.e. Negroid & Americanoid)
• Douglas (i.e. Negroid & Vedda-Austronesoid)
• Coloreds (e.g. Cape Coloureds)
• Any other mixed races...

[Mortimer]

Are Roma People classified as Caucasoid according to traditional Physical Anthropology?

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Traditionally, Physical Anthropology used racial classification systems to categorize humans based on physical traits such as skin color, facial features, and skull measurements. One such system, the "Caucasoid-Mongoloid-Negroid" classification, was widely used in the past.

Under this system, Roma people, also known as Romani or Gypsies, were typically classified as Caucasoid or "white" due to their European appearance. However, it's important to note that this system of racial classification is now widely considered to be outdated and inaccurate.

Today, anthropologists generally reject the concept of race as a biological category and instead recognize that human diversity is best understood as a complex interplay between genetic, environmental, and cultural factors. As a result, attempts to classify Roma people or any other group of people based on physical traits are considered to be both scientifically unsound and socially problematic.




Mortimer
Did the term Western Euroasian in Gentic Science replaced the term caucasoid in traditional Physical Anthropology?
The term "Western Eurasian" is often used in genetics research to describe a group of populations that share genetic ancestry from Europe and the Middle East. This term is not an official replacement for the term "Caucasoid" in traditional physical anthropology because the two concepts refer to different things.

"Caucasoid" is a racial classification system that was used in traditional physical anthropology to categorize humans based on physical traits such as skull shape, facial features, and skin color. This classification system is no longer widely used in contemporary anthropology due to its association with scientific racism and the recognition that it is not a biologically meaningful way to classify humans.

In contrast, "Western Eurasian" is a term used in genetics research to describe the genetic ancestry of populations from Europe and the Middle East. This term is based on genetic data and is not used to categorize humans based on physical traits. It is important to note that the use of genetic data to study human populations is a rapidly evolving field, and new terminology and concepts may emerge as research progresses.




Mortimer
Are Roma People classified as Western Eurasian in population genetics? Where do they cluster on a genetic world map?

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Yes, Roma people are often classified as Western Eurasian in population genetics studies, as they are believed to have originated from a population in the Indian subcontinent and subsequently migrated to Europe and other parts of the world.

Studies using genetic markers such as mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosome haplotypes have found that Roma people are a genetically diverse population, with subgroups clustering together based on their geographic origins and migration histories.

One study published in the American Journal of Human Genetics in 2012 found that Roma populations from different regions of Europe clustered together genetically, with a clear separation from non-Roma populations. The study also found evidence of gene flow between Roma and non-Roma populations, suggesting that the Roma have intermixed with the populations among whom they have lived over the centuries.

Another study published in the journal Scientific Reports in 2018 analyzed genome-wide data from over 4,500 individuals from 30 different populations, including Roma populations from Europe and the Middle East. The study found that the Roma populations clustered together as a distinct group, separate from other European and Middle Eastern populations.

Overall, population genetics studies have shown that Roma populations have a unique genetic history and are distinct from other European and Middle Eastern populations. However, the genetic diversity within the Roma population is also considerable, and different subgroups may have distinct genetic profiles.

[Mortimer]

Are Roma People typically considered as White in the USA?

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In the United States, the racial classification of Roma people is not well-established, and there is no official designation for them. However, Roma people are generally considered to be members of the white race, as they have European ancestry and share many physical characteristics with other white populations.

It is important to note, however, that race is a socially constructed concept and that racial classifications can vary across different contexts and geographic regions. Additionally, individuals who identify as Roma may not necessarily identify as white, as racial identity is a complex and multifaceted construct that can be influenced by many factors, including cultural, social, and political experiences.




Mortimer
Are Roma People officially considered under the White category in the United Kingdom?

In the United Kingdom, Roma people are not officially classified as a separate racial category. However, they are typically considered to be members of the white race due to their European ancestry and physical characteristics.

It's important to note that racial categories are socially constructed and can vary across different contexts and geographic regions. Additionally, some individuals who identify as Roma may not necessarily identify as white, as racial identity is a complex and multifaceted construct that can be influenced by many factors, including cultural, social, and political experiences.

The UK government has recognized the need to address discrimination against Roma people and has taken steps to promote their inclusion and integration into British society. In 2012, the UK government published a national strategy for Roma inclusion, which aimed to improve the educational, employment, and health outcomes for Roma communities in the country.

[Mortimer]

He used to say that Roma People are not white or that it is a complex debate... or debatable and that some are white and some not... he changed his mind...

[OrthodoxHipster]

Today, anthropologists generally reject the concept of race as a biological category and instead recognize that human diversity is best understood as a complex interplay between genetic, environmental, and cultural factors. As a result, attempts to classify Roma people or any other group of people based on physical traits are considered to be both scientifically unsound and socially problematic.

Mortimer
Did the term Western Euroasian in Gentic Science replaced the term caucasoid in traditional Physical Anthropology?
The term "Western Eurasian" is often used in genetics research to describe a group of populations that share genetic ancestry from Europe and the Middle East. This term is not an official replacement for the term "Caucasoid" in traditional physical anthropology because the two concepts refer to different things.

"Caucasoid" is a racial classification system that was used in traditional physical anthropology to categorize humans based on physical traits such as skull shape, facial features, and skin color. This classification system is no longer widely used in contemporary anthropology due to its association with scientific racism and the recognition that it is not a biologically meaningful way to classify humans.

In contrast, "Western Eurasian" is a term used in genetics research to describe the genetic ancestry of populations from Europe and the Middle East. This term is based on genetic data and is not used to categorize humans based on physical traits. It is important to note that the use of genetic data to study human populations is a rapidly evolving field, and new terminology and concepts may emerge as research progresses.

Are you suggesting that race oughtta be tied to genetics? Personally, I would rather separate these ideas. When determining the race of someone on the street, no one's gonna take the time to administer a DNA test, it's all based on physical observations and subjective, yet guided classifications.

Likewise, are you suggesting that I say 'West Eurasian' rather than 'Caucasoid'? My problem with this is that 'Caucasoid' is strictly a racial term, 'West Eurasian' is not. It's true, the term 'Caucasoid' has a bad rap based on historically prejudicial and discriminatory scientific racism.

I firmly believe that by living in the past and black-listing this term, that we're missing out on an opportunity to salvage and re-vamp the word 'Caucasoid', a very useful term, and remove its racist connotations while keeping it racial.