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    Hard to explain with a logic reasoning, maybe because it's no logic or reasonable.
    Hard to explain based on education and instilled values becuase I grew up with the mantra 'there's only a race the human race' and bla bla bla.
    Hard to explain based on subliminal messages my mind is bombed everyday with, in the media, advertising, academia etc, because they're all spreading multicultural values.

    But it's a inner feeling I can't ignore or counteract, it's a basic instinct like sex or self-protection.

    Why?, don't know, but race is a basic and primordial thing to me, language and culture are just acquired things, outside of my inner self.

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    Excellent responses (against OP and his supporters) on here. Nothing more to add to the excellent responses given here (nothing else comes to my mind at this moment). Race is super important. Much more than what egalitarian liberals think.
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    You can change your language and adapt to a different culture, but your "race" will not change. Like being British is not the same thing as being English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Excellent responses (against OP and his supporters) on here. Nothing more to add to the excellent responses given here (nothing else comes to my mind at this moment). Race is super important. Much more than what egalitarian liberals think.
    Not that I usually like to personalise things; nevertheless, let us not forget that you and I both have some non-white admixture, and as we know the correlation between genotype and phenotype can be very fuzzy. Therefore, if either one of us were three shades darker in skintone and/or with Amerindian eyes and cheekbones, would that give others the 'right' to hate and fear us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Not that I usually like to personalise things; nevertheless, let us not forget that you and I both have some non-white admixture, and as we know the correlation between genotype and phenotype can be very fuzzy. Therefore, if either one of us were three shades darker in skintone and/or with Amerindian eyes and cheekbones, would that give others the 'right' to hate and fear us?
    Your ancestry does come out in both of your personalities though. If you were fully British or White would you be so concerned with foreign languages/cultures or constantly making threads about race-mixing? I doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Your ancestry does come out in both of your personalities though. If you were fully British or White would you be so concerned with foreign languages/cultures or constantly making threads about race-mixing? I doubt.
    Maybe not as much, but I might still be interested in languages at least. And how does alnortedelusr's ancestry come out so vividly then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Not that I usually like to personalise things; nevertheless, let us not forget that you and I both have some non-white admixture, and as we know the correlation between genotype and phenotype can be very fuzzy. Therefore, if either one of us were three shades darker in skintone and/or with Amerindian eyes and cheekbones, would that give others the 'right' to hate and fear us?
    At least don't associate racism or racialism only with europeans. As you have said a few times blacks, asians and others can be equally racist too.

    It seems a natural human feeling, or instinct, or whatever it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Maybe not as much, but I might still be interested in languages at least. And how does alnortedelusr's ancestry come out so vividly then?
    What percentage is it and how can you be sure you have it without access to specialized experiences such as a scientific lab ? Some of this dna analysis stuff is possibly politically motivated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    At least don't associate racism or racialism only with europeans.
    I'm not - I am only saying how irrational much of it really is (as even you alluded to you
    It seems a natural human feeling, or instinct, or whatever it is.
    Tribalism arguably is, but not so much racism. (The former means "I hate you because you are different and a stranger", whereas the latter means "I hate you because you are inferior").

    Also, would you (and alnorte too, for that matter) really find it easier to make friends with some monolingual Scandinavians or Slavs than some Latin Americans who happened to be dark-skinned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierreUno View Post
    What percentage is it and how can you be sure you have it without access to specialized experiences such as a scientific lab ? Some of this dna analyse stuff is possibly politically motivated.
    I haven't done a 23andme test yet, but my Mum has, and she came out 33% Amerindian 3% Black and the rest Caucasoid (Euro and some MENA). alnorte, however, has done a 23andme test - you can ask him about his results.

    EDIT: My Mum's test was done with myancestryDNA, not 23andme.

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