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    Target: Impaler
    Distance: 3.0873% / 0.03087293
    45.4 Romanian
    16.6 Chechen
    15.0 Italian_Lazio
    14.6 Greek
    8.4 Chuvash

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    The best I can do is this.

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 3.2157% / 0.03215740
    58.2 German
    24.0 Belgian
    15.8 Finnish
    2.0 Basque_Spanish

    Cannot seem to get any closer. Quite a difficult task.

    Closest is this so even trying to mix and match a lot of populations are rejected.

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 1.6484% / 0.01648393
    44.6 Icelandic
    30.8 Welsh
    23.4 Irish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Target: Petalpusher
    Distance: 2.9819% / 0.02981860
    44.0 Basque_Spanish
    40.8 Icelandic
    15.2 Lithuanian


    Target: Petalpusher
    Distance: 3.1066% / 0.03206596
    76.2 French
    12.6 Icelandic
    11.2 Swedish


    I ve tried what i get in 3-4 pop the vast majority of the time in gedmatch oracles, something N.Italian + Scandinavian, but there is no Bergamo like sample here, and with Lazio the fits are too erroneous. With Spanish samples it never works because of the lack of SSA/Taforalt, except sometimes Basque ones that don't have it.
    hmmm....
    Distance to: French_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur
    0.01354540 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.01408360 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.01442538 Spanish_Penedes
    0.01605360 Swiss_French
    0.01610539 Spanish_Girona
    0.01796078 Spanish_Baleares
    0.01821207 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.01826229 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    0.01865745 French_Auvergne
    0.01944046 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.01955602 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.02026292 Spanish_Eivissa
    0.02080217 Italian_Veneto
    0.02130892 Spanish_Lleida
    0.02222927 Italian_Northeast
    0.02245897 Spanish_Alacant
    0.02253625 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.02349274 French_Occitanie
    0.02371082 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.02444582 Spanish_Castello
    0.02472542 Spanish_Menorca
    0.02478073 Spanish_Valencia
    0.02533752 Spanish_Cataluna
    0.02542824 Spanish_Pirineu
    0.02590114 Spanish_Galicia
    0.02631246 Spanish_Cantabria
    0.02637668 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    0.02662252 Italian_Bergamo
    0.02778560 Spanish_Aragon
    0.02817582 Portuguese
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    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 2.8206% / 0.02820553
    73.4 Basque_Spanish
    12.0 Turkish_Central
    6.2 Saudi
    4.4 German
    4.0 Swedish



    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 3.5673% / 0.03567285
    66.2 Basque_Spanish
    17.2 German
    8.8 Turkish_Central
    7.8 Saudi

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Too crazy for me. This is meant to be for modern slaves of labour. I'm retired and have not time to this foolery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    hmmm....
    Distance to: French_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur
    0.01354540 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.01408360 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.01442538 Spanish_Penedes
    0.01605360 Swiss_French
    0.01610539 Spanish_Girona
    0.01796078 Spanish_Baleares
    0.01821207 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.01826229 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    0.01865745 French_Auvergne
    0.01944046 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.01955602 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.02026292 Spanish_Eivissa
    0.02080217 Italian_Veneto
    0.02130892 Spanish_Lleida
    0.02222927 Italian_Northeast
    0.02245897 Spanish_Alacant
    0.02253625 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.02349274 French_Occitanie
    0.02371082 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.02444582 Spanish_Castello
    0.02472542 Spanish_Menorca
    0.02478073 Spanish_Valencia
    0.02533752 Spanish_Cataluna
    0.02542824 Spanish_Pirineu
    0.02590114 Spanish_Galicia
    0.02631246 Spanish_Cantabria
    0.02637668 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    0.02662252 Italian_Bergamo
    0.02778560 Spanish_Aragon
    0.02817582 Portuguese

    Im not sure what you try to imply, those are single pop distances not fits. You can get relatively close to populations who even have a bit of East Asian in single distance but they rarely won't fit well with multiple pops.

    The infamous sample from southeast France that nobody matches is from Nice, an historically Italian town at the border, that became part of France only recently. It's so ridiculous that i have family members from Provence who are closer to Ukrainians than this sample supposedly from their own region. But at least it's a real sample from a study exploring the border surroundings of the Alps with Italy, vs internet samples collected from god knows where.

    Just like the so called "south French" sample isn't anywhere near like a southern half, it's samples taken at the border with the Basques, and those are the only people who depart from the main cluster, while even someone from Marseille can overlap with someone from Lille or Alsace as shown in real academic studies:



    In the north of the Haute Garonne region, which is still a border region it already goes back to normal plotting of the main cluster (the + signs here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
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    Distance: 3.1066% / 0.03206596
    These not corresponding figures came out of the calculator?
    Target: rothaer_scaled
    Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085

    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    These not corresponding figures came out of the calculator?
    I might have missed that last part in the copy paste the first time and fixed it wrong manually looking at my list of 50 fits...

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    Target: Feiichy_scaled
    Distance: 3.0110% / 0.03011028

    33.4 Russian_Kursk
    20.6 Ukrainian
    16.2 Basque_Spanish
    13.4 Albanian
    12.0 Romanian
    4.4 Georgian_Laz

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    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 3.0316% / 0.03031612

    82.0 French
    12.4 Italian_Lazio
    5.6 Mozabite

    Distance to: gixajo_scaled
    0.03692491 French
    0.07082377 Italian_Lazio
    0.22967140 Mozabite

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    French,0.1273647,0.1416514,0.0485266,0.0211375,0.0 404192,0.0061848,0.0027786,0.0032544,0.0106413,0.0 174116,-0.0034436,0.0067991,-0.0143676,-0.009583,0.0119853,0.0038139,-0.0020746,-0.0002534,0.0009095,0.0012175,0.0028772,0.0016548,-0.0015261,0.0064519,-0.0011587
    Mozabite,-0.0649782,0.135551,-0.0032793,-0.0717622,0.0260249,-0.0328364,-0.0260656,0.0108257,0.0617306,0.0303463,0.0065097,-0.006366,0.021795,-0.0165685,0.0163159,-0.016176,-0.0027097,-0.0219282,-0.0435571,0.0082757,-0.0146263,-0.0367947,0.0246817,-0.0042277,0.0056594
    Italian_Lazio,0.1146768,0.1525832,0.006694,-0.0350455,0.0213115,-0.0115738,0.0024675,0.000519,0.0068512,0.0234627,0 .001299,0.0028475,-0.007656,-0.0070875,-0.0068538,0.0041432,-0.000228,-0.0005068,0.0018225,-0.005065,-0.002745,0.0033695,-0.0003697,-0.0003613,-0.000479
    Edit:If I have time I will try other combinations that allow me to better adjust the distance to 3.0000...

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