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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Last week I already was in Andalusia and already ate a paella (in Ronda specifically).

    Please, go back Turkey. Or Germany at least. This is not your country and never will be.
    Ronda sounds nice, do you live there? I would need at least two and half hours with a car from Jaen, same length to Sevilla. Are you regularly in Sevilla? But don’t worry, I am not in Spain, at least not now.

    What do you think about children who are partly Spanish and Turkish but raised as Spaniards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by user_ View Post
    One of the main reasons why East Europe is less developed than West is Russia's imperialist ambitions. There cannot be development with out peace. We need years of peaceful cooperation to become as wealthy as West. Russia should be destroyed as empire, we need Democratic Moskovskaya respublika.
    Let me remind you that Russia saved Georgia from the Turks. The Georgians themselves asked the Russian emperor about this. If there is no Russia, then there will be no Georgia. The world should strive for balance, not destruction. My opinion about Georgia today is that it would be better for the Turks to get Georgia at that time. Georgia is a historical mistake of the Russian tsars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post

    France even being nominally Catholic allied itself with the Ottoman empire to fight against Spain
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Ottoman_alliance

    I would not include Germany since they belonged to the Habsburgs, at least the Catholic ones.
    In Crimean war, Britain and France helped Ottomans and enabled the Muslim rule to last longer in Europe


    The Crimean War[c] was fought from October 1853 to February 1856[4] between Russia and an ultimately victorious alliance of the Ottoman Empire, France, the United Kingdom and Sardinia-Piedmont.

    Fearing an Ottoman collapse, the British and French fleets entered the Black Sea in January 1854.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War



    But dont think that Habsburgs were much better. When they took Bosnia in 1878. Muslim element remained privileged. There was no agrarian reform, but remained Ottoman feudal system until 1918.

    Imagine, there was Muslim feudal system with Christian serfs in part of Balkans even in 20th century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    Let me remind you that Russia saved Georgia from the Turks. The Georgians themselves asked the Russian emperor about this. If there is no Russia, then there will be no Georgia. The world should strive for balance, not destruction. My opinion about Georgia today is that it would be better for the Turks to get Georgia at that time. Georgia is a historical mistake of the Russian tsars.
    Let me remind you that we asked to help as Christian brothers to defend Georgia and south of Russia from Ottoman Empire. We did not asked to swallow our Kingdom and become another Russian kray. Anyway Russian Empire was generating progressive ideas, Soviet Union was advanced in science, promoted the ideas of atheism, gender equality long before than West Europe. What is modern Russian idea based on? The main idea is WE DON"T LIKE GAYS, corruption, nepotism. You should be ashamed what you did with Russian Empire and Soviet Union legacy. You became like an third world country just with atomic bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user_ View Post
    Let me remind you that we asked to help as Christian brothers to defend Georgia and south of Russia from Ottoman Empire. We did not asked to swallow our Kingdom and become another Russian kray. Anyway Russian Empire was generating progressive ideas, Soviet Union was advanced in science, promoted the ideas of atheism, gender equality long before than West Europe. What is modern Russian idea based on? The main idea is WE DON"T LIKE GAYS, corruption, nepotism. You should be ashamed what you did with Russian Empire and Soviet Union legacy. You became like an third world country just with atomic bomb.
    You should know the difference between Tsar Nicholas II and the Jew/Kalmyk Lenin who fooled the Russian people. Then your Georgian Stalin came...And I still love him, unlike you, the traitor. The latest story with Abkhazia is not worth your hatred. For you would not be here today, you would be a Turk today. Russians did not go to Georgia. Abkhazia is an independent country today, and Russians don't like to fuck there either...Why the hell don't we give you to Turkey? By the way, Russian Georgians are for Russians today. But there are Georgians who dismember Russians in their own way. It's a betrayal. But I won't hate all Georgians. Your people gave the world Stalin. And many Georgians today are not freaks, they are people.

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    По русски скажу. Грузины в России по прежнему братья несмотря на военные преступления грузинских наемников на Украине. Если бы не русские, сегодня ты разговаривал бы на турецком языке и считал себя турком. У вас очень короткая память. Это прискорбно

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mejgusu View Post
    Ronda sounds nice, do you live there? I would need at least two and half hours with a car from Jaen, same length to Sevilla. Are you regularly in Sevilla? But don’t worry, I am not in Spain, at least not now.
    Man, I am not Andalusian nor I live there. I am Castilian and Leonese, just I was in holydays in Andalusia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mejgusu View Post
    What do you think about children who are partly Spanish and Turkish but raised as Spaniards?
    Alien. Foreigners. Immigrants. Mongrels. Undesirable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    По русски скажу. Грузины в России по прежнему братья несмотря на военные преступления грузинских наемников на Украине. Если бы не русские, сегодня ты разговаривал бы на турецком языке и считал себя турком. У вас очень короткая память. Это прискорбно
    Asian languages are cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Asian languages are cool.
    The farmers Spanish spoke Kartaveli like Georgians. Your Spanish is an ancient part of the Indo-European language, the direct descendants are Russians and Latvians by DNA. Spanish in language too, but you are very mena, borrowed Russian lang.... I'm tired of this shit. Give up at last, you stubborn Spanish..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    The farmers Spanish spoke Kartaveli like Georgians. Your Spanish is an ancient part of the Indo-European language, the direct descendants are Russians and Latvians by DNA. Spanish in language too, but you are very mena, borrowed Russian lang.... I'm tired of this shit. Give up at last, you stubborn Spanish..
    Yet you look like a Chechen, I dont

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