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Thread: Are North Caucasians (Ossetians/Chechens/Adyghe/Georgians) and South Russians mostly same?

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    Southern Russians from Kursk








    Chechens





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    Quote Originally Posted by dviz View Post
    The girl with the balalaika looks Caucasian.

    Some Russians deny it, but Russians overall have important Balkan influence, probably around 15% (more than Caucasus influence). The least Balkan influence is in areas close to Finland, and the most is in Southern Russia (and Ukraine btw).
    This is not a Balkan influence, it is a common Slavic origin
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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    If the Ukrainian language is freed from Polish borrowings, it will be 99% understandable to a Russian-speaking person.
    It's a misunderstanging. Ukrainian is more different from Russian than that. Also the fact that it's similar doesn't make it a "surzhik". Your usage of the word surzhik is incorrect. The song that I've linked to is in Ukrainian and I don't see any borrowings from Russian in it. Prove it's full of borrowings or don't spread misinformation.

    I see your approach to language is that Russian is great and other Slavic languages are its deviations. I think this approach now is used to divide East Slavic peoples and I insist that it should be dropped so that not to help our common enemies divide and set on to fight us.
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    ugochaves try to understand Shevchenko. I think he wasn't a Polonofil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    The German Wikipedia article on them states (in translation):

    The Kuban Cossack Army (Russian Куба́нское каза́чье во́йско) was founded in 1860 and disbanded in 1920. It was the only formation of Ukrainian[1][2] Cossacks within the eleven official Cossack armies of the Imperial Russian Army.
    The Cossackdom in Ukraine was very numerous. Probably unlike in some other parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sevruk View Post
    Southern Russians from Kursk








    Chechens




    You won't believe it. My cousin is Degi Dudaev 4-cousin -
    The son of Dzhokhar Dudayev (FTDNA). Apparently, on the part of his Russian mother, we have a DNA connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    It's a misunderstanging. Ukrainian is more different from Russian than that. Also the fact that it's similar doesn't make it a "surzhik". Your usage of the word surzhik is incorrect. The song that I've linked to is in Ukrainian and I don't see any borrowings from Russian in it. Prove it's full of borrowings or don't spread misinformation.

    I see your approach to language is that Russian is great and other Slavic languages are its deviations. I think this approach now is used to divide East Slavic peoples and I insist that it should be dropped so that not to help our common enemies divide and set on to fight us.
    The Russian language is full of borrowings. All participles are from the Bulgarian language. I will never be a straight-talking village nationalist. If I say something, it means I've been working on it for a very long time and I'm responsible for the words. Tell me, friend, how is the cloud in Ukrainian? Туча - Хмара ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    The Russian language is full of borrowings. All participles are from the Bulgarian language. I will never be a straight-talking village nationalist. If I say something, it means I've been working on it for a very long time and I'm responsible for the words. Tell me, friend, how is the cloud in Ukrainian? Туча - Хмара ?
    So, let's take the modern Ukrainian as it is. If now it has many Polish borrowings let it be so. Look, I'd learn and switch to Polish or Japanese myself if only it could stop the war and hatred.

    Unfortunately I don't really know Ukrainian but I mostly understand it. I don't know what stands for cloud in it.
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    The Caucasian war took place because these peoples were too different. This thread is stupid. Ditch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    So, let's take the modern Ukrainian as it is. If now it has many Polish borrowings let it be so. Look, I'd learn and switch to Polish or Japanese myself if only it could stop the war and hatred.

    Unfortunately I don't really know Ukrainian but I mostly understand it. I don't know what stands for cloud in it.
    Russians and Ukrainians are fucking friends with each other in real life. War is a damn necessity when a Russian shoots a Ukrainian and a Ukrainian shoots a Russian... That's geopolitics. These two would like to hug and try on, but this is impossible. Geopolitics is a very complex thing.
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