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    Walloonia is like the French part of Switzerland and Flanders is like the German part of Switzerland, rest my case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    Walloonia is like the French part of Switzerland and Flanders is like the German part of Switzerland, rest my case.
    Yes, the flemish/dutch language is a north german dialect.

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    Even without taking into consideration the French they speak, when analyzing Walloon, as a language, it's just another French langue d'öil language, so yes, they (Walloons) are just a continuation of the French, as I said, just like the Swiss French.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    You are german and Belgien is Germany
    Wallonia is also "Belgien"
    Quote Originally Posted by Boudin View Post
    The point was to illustrate the existence of a stabilized Belgian phenotype that can be called Walloons.
    But why not call it "flemish" or "flemishoid"? Especially since there are 2 flemish and no walloons in your examples.
    My point is that all of this is selective bias, and any category can be made-up. You can create a "balloonid" category and select-bias anyone with, say, dumbo ears and slanted eyebrows and attribute it to that category.
    If it's shared also by the Flemish and German-speaking Belgians, then I think "Belgid" would be a better term.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    Walloonia is like the French part of Switzerland and Flanders is like the German part of Switzerland, rest my case.
    In what way? Culturally, linguistically, perhaps. If it's genetic then Wallonia is surprisingly close to German Switzerland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tchek View Post
    Wallonia is also "Belgien"


    But why not call it "flemish" or "flemishoid"? Especially since there are 2 flemish and no walloons in your examples.
    My point is that all of this is selective bias, and any category can be made-up. You can create a "balloonid" category and select-bias anyone with, say, dumbo ears and slanted eyebrows and attribute it to that category.
    If it's shared also by the Flemish and German-speaking Belgians, then I think "Belgid" would be a better term.


    In what way? Culturally, linguistically, perhaps. If it's genetic then Wallonia is surprisingly close to German Switzerland.
    Walloons are French in every single one of these categories, the difference is that the Swiss French are most similar to the Central French and Walloons are most similar to Northern French (obviously), I wasn't comparing Walloons to Swiss French directly, I was compairing the relationship with their French neighbors and Germanic neighbors.

    Distance to: Belgian_(Walloon_Profile)
    0.00570279 French_Nord
    0.00931706 French_Alsace
    0.01280258 French_Paris
    0.01288071 Swiss_German
    0.01474351 French
    0.01536047 French_Pas-de-Calais
    0.01728139 French_Brittany
    0.01983455 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.01992583 German
    0.02214030 Afrikaner
    0.02240342 French_Occitanie
    0.02254395 Welsh
    0.02332279 Belgian_(Flemish_Profile)
    0.02374347 English_Cornwall
    0.02400218 German_Erlangen
    0.02424855 Dutch
    0.02467123 English
    0.02546770 French_Auvergne
    0.02655976 Austrian
    0.02846894 Swiss_French
    0.02891952 Scottish
    0.03002447 Orcadian
    0.03252754 Irish
    0.03282086 French_Provence
    0.03403187 Shetlandic


    Distance to: Swiss_French
    0.01321153 French_Auvergne
    0.01478797 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.01479124 French_Provence
    0.01654653 French
    0.01768132 French_Occitanie
    0.01828836 Spanish_Penedes
    0.01963710 Spanish_Girona
    0.02063327 Swiss_German
    0.02123718 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.02189584 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.02227836 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.02261826 Spanish_Lleida
    0.02286640 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    0.02445386 French_Paris
    0.02517558 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.02563287 Spanish_Baleares
    0.02576909 French_Alsace
    0.02596105 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
    0.02599146 French_Nord
    0.02641192 Italian_Northeast
    0.02795085 Italian_Veneto
    0.02799288 Spanish_Cataluna
    0.02807204 Spanish_Castello
    0.02846894 Belgian_(Walloon_Profile)
    0.02850002 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre

    (Although the Swiss seem to be closer to each other compared to their Belgian counterparts)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    Walloons are French in every single one of these categories, the difference is that the Swiss French are most similar to the Central French and Walloons are most similar to Northern French (obviously), I wasn't comparing Walloons to Swiss French directly, I was compairing the relationship with their French neighbors and Germanic neighbors.

    Distance to: Belgian_(Walloon_Profile)
    0.00570279 French_Nord
    0.00931706 French_Alsace
    0.01280258 French_Paris
    0.01288071 Swiss_German
    0.01474351 French
    0.01536047 French_Pas-de-Calais
    0.01728139 French_Brittany
    0.01983455 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.01992583 German
    0.02214030 Afrikaner
    0.02240342 French_Occitanie
    0.02254395 Welsh
    0.02332279 Belgian_(Flemish_Profile)
    0.02374347 English_Cornwall
    0.02400218 German_Erlangen
    0.02424855 Dutch
    0.02467123 English
    0.02546770 French_Auvergne
    0.02655976 Austrian
    0.02846894 Swiss_French
    0.02891952 Scottish
    0.03002447 Orcadian
    0.03252754 Irish
    0.03282086 French_Provence
    0.03403187 Shetlandic


    Distance to: Swiss_French
    0.01321153 French_Auvergne
    0.01478797 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.01479124 French_Provence
    0.01654653 French
    0.01768132 French_Occitanie
    0.01828836 Spanish_Penedes
    0.01963710 Spanish_Girona
    0.02063327 Swiss_German
    0.02123718 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.02189584 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.02227836 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.02261826 Spanish_Lleida
    0.02286640 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    0.02445386 French_Paris
    0.02517558 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.02563287 Spanish_Baleares
    0.02576909 French_Alsace
    0.02596105 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
    0.02599146 French_Nord
    0.02641192 Italian_Northeast
    0.02795085 Italian_Veneto
    0.02799288 Spanish_Cataluna
    0.02807204 Spanish_Castello
    0.02846894 Belgian_(Walloon_Profile)
    0.02850002 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre

    (Although the Swiss seem to be closer to each other compared to their Belgian counterparts)
    According to those results Walloons are closer to Swiss Germans than to French Swiss, and far closer to Swiss Germans than French Germans and Swiss Germans are to each others.
    French Swiss seem to be closer to southern europeans than any of those groups.
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    They do, they're descendants of the Belgae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Exactly. Particularly you also simply do have darker Swedes proper. The popular Swedish Walloon narratives are comparable to American Cherokee ancestry family lores, i. e. either not applicable or notably overrated.
    I agree. Darker Swedes can also come from German ancestors (I myself have distant German and am darker than the average Swede from my grandmother where it came from, but my totally Finland-Swedish grandfather was also pretty dark even though Agrippa classified him as Nordid). I also believe that darker Swedes exist as part of the variation where no immigrant ancestry can be attributed to it whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Östsvensk View Post
    The famous Swedish poet Dan Andersson was of Walloon (mother), Finnish (father) and Swedish ancestry.
    This is a good example for how Swedes handle the Walloon ancestry topic. The mother is of Walloon ancestry. Period.

    And here is the pedigree of Dan Andersson: http://leon.amaroq.se/genealogi/alla/a1a20377a.html

    Feel free to motivate why you summarize the mother to be of Wallon ancestry.
    Last edited by rothaer; 07-08-2023 at 12:28 PM.
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