Classify Northern Italian footballer Davide Brivio

[Carl_uhul]

Honestly, do you guys really think he even passes somewhere in Europe? He has thick-lips, very dark caucasoid skin (type IV or even darker when tanned), thick-eyebrows, very dark curly hair, hooked-nose and so on.
If I didn't know that he is a Lombard, I would guess him as a light-arab at best. He doesn't look even southern Italian, his features and traits are totally off for Europe.
Iberians, Italians and Greeks, although swarthier than people from central and eastern European countries (especially when it comes to pigmentation), have 100% europid faces and europid looks. But Davide Brivio, although being caucasian-looking, doesn't look like a white European. I wonder how you guys would classify him if I hadn't given his ethnicity - probably you guys would have said that he doesn't pass even in southern Italy (when he actually is not only Italian, but a NORTHERN Italian).

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Berid

[Carl_uhul]

Berid

lol

[Ajeje Brazorf]

From Milan, Lombardy.

You do know that the majority of the population in Milan has extensively mixed with immigrants from Southern Italy, don't you? Surnames are like haplogroups, they don't say much. That guy could very well be only 1/4 Lombard.

[Carl_uhul]

You do know that the majority of the population in Milan has extensively mixed with immigrants from Southern Italy, don't you? Surnames are like haplogroups, they don't say much. That guy could very well be only 1/4 Lombard.

His family is from Lecco.

Also, not even the majority people of full southern Italian background (Calabrians, Sicilians and Sardinians) looks like this guy. But Davide Brivio honestly looks like a light Arab.

That's how I imagine an average southern Italian guy:



Gattuso is of fully southern Italian background (Calabrian) and still looks 100% Italian and 100% white European.

Davide Brivio doesn't even look fully European (although he is), and I'm not intented to troll Italian members in this forum, but imo he looks like a "light" arab (he looks caucasian, he looks neither mixed with black nor with mongoloid; maybe he can pass as a dark MENA, but I've never seen an European with such look - let alone an ethnic Lombard). Italy is undoubtly a white-European country, but there are a very minor population with ambiguous look, the same way you can also find a minority ambiguous-looking people in Iberia and Greece, for example. But since the members of TA usually compare Northern-Italians to "Nordicized-shifted-looking Europeans" (differently from Iberians and Greeks, who are already considered "wogs" by most of the members of this forum, Northern-Italians are often a reference to "whiteness" among southern European countries), I kinda "question" their whiteness and "nordiciness" since it's not rare at all to find ethnic Lombards, Venetians and Trentinians who sometimes look less euro-looking than even some southern Italians.

Paolo Grossi, Milanese footballer:

[Padanian]

This guy not only doesn't pass as a native in both northern and southern regions of Italy, but also in nowhere else in Europe. He looks gypsy or arab, his phenotype is totally uneuropean. Not sure about his ancestry/ethnic background though.

[TrevorXdX]

Honestly, do you guys really think he even passes somewhere in Europe? He has thick-lips, very dark caucasoid skin (type IV or even darker when tanned), thick-eyebrows, very dark curly hair, hooked-nose and so on.
If I didn't know that he is a Lombard, I would guess him as a light-arab at best. He doesn't look even southern Italian, his features and traits are totally off for Europe.
Iberians, Italians and Greeks, although swarthier than people from central and eastern European countries (especially when it comes to pigmentation), have 100% europid faces and europid looks. But Davide Brivio, although being caucasian-looking, doesn't look like a white European. I wonder how you guys would classify him if I hadn't given his ethnicity - probably you guys would have said that he doesn't pass even in southern Italy (when he actually is not only Italian, but a NORTHERN Italian).

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[Sebastianus Rex]

This guy not only doesn't pass as a native in both northern and southern regions of Italy, but also in nowhere else in Europe. He looks gypsy or arab, his phenotype is totally uneuropean. Not sure about his ancestry/ethnic background though.

You are either retarded or a troll. He doesn't look Arab at all, he doesn't even has the typical semitic long hook nose, I am yet to see a Maghrebian/Arab/paki immigrant to pass reasonably in a southern European country. Gigi Donnarumma for example is waaaay more exotic and actually looks non-european.

[Padanian]

You are either retarded or a troll. He doesn't look Arab at all, he doesn't even has the typical semitic long hook nose, I am yet to see a Maghrebian/Arab/paki immigrant to pass reasonably in a southern European country. Gigi Donnarumma for example is waaaay more exotic and actually looks non-european.

Are you really suggesting this guy is an ethnic Lombard?

[Sebastianus Rex]

Are you really suggesting this guy is an ethnic Lombard?

Who can say that? Internal migration has been going for many decades, even centuries, what I'm saying is that he doesn't have typical Arab/middle eastern features, even in France you can find similar Mediterranean hairy types. Unlike Donnarumma for example or this guy (former mayor of Messina) who look clearly middle eastern:


Even Tassotti or Chielini types have more borderline phenotypes than Brivido so I don't get why you wrote that he doesn't pass even in southern Italy.