Which national group has the worst record on miscegenation?

[Sebastianus Rex]

[QUOTE]

It's not so much that it was forbidden. You could mix with whoever you wanted. It's just that yoy paid the consequence. Children born with a taint in their lineage couldn't achieve the highest echelons of the hierarchy in social service or get noble titles, for example.

The laws of the Inquisition were appliable in the colonies also, but of course the means of control were much less effective than in mainland Portugal.

One thing is marriage another is sexual relations.

Afonso de Albuquerque, probably the greatest Portuguese general, encouraged his soldiers to marry the locals in India after he conquered Goa and Malacca, for example. This is the origin of the Kristiangs.

Yes, a different reality from Brazil, it was not a colinisation in Goa but a conquest.

Pombal also stopped the practice of 'limpeza de sangue', making it impossible to know among the Portuguese who had Jewish ancestors and who didn't. Before that, apparently it was very easy to verify if one had these ancestors. After his measures, it became impossible.

His measures were in fact rejected by the society, the assimilation of the remaining new-christians only became more effective after the liberal revolutions.

There were some means of tracing the ancestry of the families, the priests and inquisitors knew all the families.

And, regarding AlexdeLarge's post I quoted earlier, Portuguese settlers still came after the initial wave. All the Portuguese blood in Brazil doesn't come from just João Ramalho and later the immigrants of the 19th and 20th century. The genealogy of former president Getulio Vargas, for example, shows only Portuguese from Azores 6 generations earlier, in the 1700s:

Yes, some upper class families can even trace their ancestors back to 1500-1600's, altough their number is not very significant to the whole.

[curupira]

You said women stayed in Portugal implying they did not come at all. It is true that the majority were men. But colonization with couples was significant in Maranhão and Pará, f.e, where in the XVII century hundreds of Azorean couples were settled by the Crown.

Desde 1617 que a colonização do estado autónomo do Maranhão, Pará e Ceará se tinha iniciado com a ida de centenas de casais açorianos, numa fuga à fome e à miséria.

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hist%C3...281583-1641.29

And the same happened in Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina, Azorean couples were settled there, and their number was not insignificant. Besides women settled in Pernambuco, Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo, etc, even though their number was small.

I haven't said they did not settle, i said they were few.

They much less than the men that came to Brazil, wich were mostly young single men in search of fortune. This is a well known fact of the Brazilian colonization.

[curupira]

Many people in Brazil are descendants of those settlers. I am of poor background (and so were my grandparents and great grandparents) and I can trace my ancestry to people who lived here in the XVI century.

[Yes, some upper class families can even trace their ancestors back to 1500-1600's, altough their number is not very significant to the whole.

[OldNo.7]

Australia should be mentioned. Its getting overrun with people who don't work, abide by the law or even have a sense of nationalism.

They just get their welfare payment, smoke crack and complain about how 'evil' the white people are.

What's worse is our leftist government approves of this behaviour, claiming its 'open-minded'.

Very sad.

[Robert]

Australia is still light years ahead of the US though. They know what's best for them, and while they may tolerate a bit they aren't being completely destroyed by it like US and UK. It's probably holding them back somewhat though.

[OldNo.7]

Australia is still light years ahead of the US though. They know what's best for them, and while they may tolerate a bit they aren't being completely destroyed by it like US and UK. It's probably holding them back somewhat though.

Yes, Australia still has integrity. But she is on a steady path to social and ethnic decadence.

US and the UK are gone.

Its like, I'm Iranian, I don't have the most Caucasoid of appearances, but I swear my loyalty to this nation and what its best interests are.

[Xenomorph]

I can't say for sure. And there's no shame in being mixed, so miscegenation isn't something that should be described along the lines of "worst."

[Joe McCarthy]

I can't say for sure. And there's no shame in being mixed, so miscegenation isn't something that should be described along the lines of "worst."

It may just be possible that you've joined the wrong forum.

[Xenomorph]

It may just be possible that you've joined the wrong forum.

I believe that pride in one's culture should not mean shunning of the other nor acting as if they belogn to a whole 'nother species.

[rhiannon]

It may just be possible that you've joined the wrong forum.

No he hasn't.
His views are simply not in the majority around here, Joe. Kind of like my own, lol