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    Tribe Orgenomescos







    People of the Vindio




    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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    Tribe Plentusios







    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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    Tribe Salaenos








    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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    Nice people! Very Atlanto-Celtic look.

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    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lábaru View Post
    Is difficult to know for sure, after the Islamic invasion of the rest of Iberia is true that Cantabria becomes in a refuge for SpanishGoths but I doubt that the Goths, coming originally from the South of Sweden and being a minority were the reason of this genes, the archaeology also speak of a relationship with the ancient peoples of the Danube and low Rhine, I think this is the most likely origin.

    Anyway the R1b haplogroup is the majority in Cantabria.
    Dont underestimate the amount of Hispanogoths which took refuge in the Cantabrian mountains

    El reino de Alfonso I comprendía Asturias, Asturias de Santi- llana ( zona occidental de Cantabria ), Liébana y Trasmiera. La Cantabria septentrional estaba en un principio bajo con- trol musulmán. En 18 ańos dejó un reino formado por gran parte de la cornisa cantábrica, protegido de los ataques musulmanes por una amplia extensión de terreno conocido como el "Desierto del Duero".

    En sus campańas se hizo con numerosas ciudades de Gali- cia y del Duero: Lugo, Oporto, Braga, Salamanca, Zamora, Avila, Segovia, Astorga, León, Saldańa, Simancas, Osma, Clunia y las antiguas ciudades cántabras de Mave y Amaya. Todas ellas fueron arrasadas y Alfonso se trajo a los cristia- nos a su reino. La consecuencia fue el despoblamiento de la cuenca del Duero que quedó como un desierto estratégico que separaba los territorios del reino astur de los musulma- nes.

    Los cristianos traidos por Alfonso repoblaron Primorias ( zona originaria del reino de Asturias en Cangas ), Liébana, Tras- miera, Sopuerta y Carranza ( valles vizcaínos, antigua Autri- gonia ) y Vardulias ( norte de Burgos ) a la que se comenzó a llamar Castilla.


    A partir de este momento desaparecería el nombre de Cantabria durante siglos, pasando a utilizarse los nombres de las comarcas: Liébana, Trasmiera, Asturias de Santillana, Campoo...
    La pérdida de la identidad cántabra


    Con la llegada a Cantabria de cristianos hispano-visigodos desde el sur para repoblar la región tiene lugar una profunda mezcla cultural que supone el fin del antiguo pueblo cántabro. El cambio afecta a todos los niveles desde los hábitos alimenticios a las costumbres religiosas, y la supresión de la jerar- quía tribal. Los modos de vida del pueblo cántabro, casi inalterados desde época prerromana se trans- forman con esta afluencia masiva de gente que reorganiza toda la zona en base a pautas culturales y socioeconómicas ajenas al pueblo indígena.

    http://www.cantabriajoven.com/historia/repoblacion.html

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    Tribe Vacceos/Vaccaei--->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccaei






    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lábaru View Post
    Tribe Vacceos/Vaccaei--->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccaei
    The Vacceos were the Celtiberians of my area

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    The Vacceos were the Celtiberians of my area
    if I remember correctly they are invited because they fought in the Cantabrian wars, Várdulos and Autrigones occupied the present territory of Cantabria are not invited because they allied with Rome.

    Vardulos/Vardulies, current Castro (V)Urdiales --->http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A1rdulos

    Autrigones ---> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autrigones

    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
    — Lucius Anneus Florus , Epitome de T. Livio Bellorum omnium annorum DCC Libri duo Bellum Cantabricum et Asturicum


    Ethnicity of the Celts/Iberian. Tribes: Avariginos, Blendi, Concanos, Coniscos, Orgenomescos, Plentusios, Tamáricos and Vadinienses.--->http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...40#post3047240

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