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Thread: We should Restore the Polish-Lithuania Commonwealth

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    There was a time when western Ukraine was the most Russophile...Bandera mocked Western Ukrainians the most. We must remember this
    Thalerhof concentration camp was created for Russophile populace of Galicia during the WWI, even lots of non-Orthodox uniates finished their life there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Have you heard about NATO and Article 5 ?
    In the Article 5 is written that NATO will assist the Party or Parties attacked, as it deems necessary. There is no absolute guarantee, it all depends how they will consider it’s necessary to help, this is subjective.

    Again, in the Report of Committee on Foreign Relations, from 6th of June 1949, it’s stated: “the article 5 carries with it an important and far-reaching commitment on the United States; what we may do to carry out that commitment, however, will depend on our own independent decision in each particular instance reached in accordance with our own constitutional processes”.

    And then the question: “In view of the provision of the article 5 that an attack against one shall be considered an attack against all, would the United States be obligated to react to an attack to Paris or Copenhagen in the same way it would react to an attack on New York City? And the answer is: No.”

    Why Bucharest and Warsaw puts so much trust into this article 5, I don’t know. Instead of amplifying the tensions and provide weapons to Ukraine, I believe it would’ve been wiser to have a more neutral stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Poles want to get Vilnius (Wilna) back.
    Now this is the biggest bullshit I read for a few months, propaganda worked on you very well in this matter.



    Going back on question the answer is simple and it's a NO. Lithuania focuses on keeping close to other Baltics and to some degree Nordic countries, whereas Poland not so much. Not to mention it would end up terribly bad for Lithuania as they would be a small authonomy in borders of Poland. It would be also detrimental for Poles to again have multiethnic state where there wouldn't be one ethnicity with huge majority, I doubt if even Poles would be majority. The ultimate proof is that some marginal people would like it to happen.

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    Zelensky also remembers the Commonwealth:




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    If anything the southeastern periphery of Poland east of the Vistula and north of the Carpathians (and west of Lviv) should join Ukraine, since it is historically Ukrainian territory.

    Although I think the best future for Ukraine would be for it (what remains of it; mostly west and central Ukraine) to join EU and form some kind of de-facto union with Poland.

    This would be ideal to me with both retaining relatively conservative values. Poland seems to have that figured out for the moment, but I'm not sure how long that will last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vega7 View Post
    If anything the southeastern periphery of Poland east of the Vistula and north of the Carpathians (and west of Lviv) should join Ukraine, since it is historically Ukrainian territory.

    Although I think the best future for Ukraine would be for it (what remains of it; mostly west and central Ukraine) to join EU and form some kind of de-facto union with Poland.

    This would be ideal to me with both retaining relatively conservative values. Poland seems to have that figured out for the moment, but I'm not sure how long that will last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vega7 View Post
    If anything the southeastern periphery of Poland east of the Vistula and north of the Carpathians (and west of Lviv) should join Ukraine, since it is historically Ukrainian territory.
    Yeah, right...

    On the other hand Moldavia - the modern-day Republic of Moldova and Romanian Moldova together with Ukrainain Budjak - is a historical East Slavic land and lies in the same region that Ukraine (the Great Steppe) so it would make sense for it to join Ukraine. Both are very poor too.

    Although I think the best future for Ukraine would be for it (what remains of it; mostly west and central Ukraine) to join EU and form some kind of de-facto union with Poland.

    This would be ideal to me with both retaining relatively conservative values. Poland seems to have that figured out for the moment, but I'm not sure how long that will last.
    I have no idea who thought that most Poles want to live in one state with Ukraine. Much rather just get back former Polish lands, but even this has a very low priority.
    In other words - no.

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