Why Belarus is NOT White Russia

[Ugo]

Balto(White) Ruthenia.

The fact is that the word "Balts" as the name of the Baltic peoples appeared in 1845. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania is a maximum of 1253-1795. That is, the word Balto-Russia could not appear in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania . A mismatch, right? This version of Balto-russia was invented very recently by alternative nationalist historians

[Vessna]

The fact is that the word "Balts" as the name of the Baltic peoples appeared in 1845. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania is a maximum of 1253-1795. That is, the word Balto-Russia could not appear in ON. A mismatch, right? This version of Balto-russia was invented very recently by alternative nationalist historians

Balt literally translates as white from Lithuanian. Baltic Sea = White Sea. Balto Russian is similar to Weißrussland in German. No conspiracy, just a literal translation of the name. I don’t understand what are you trying to prove.


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[Vessna]

Again, from what I’ve read in Russian and English sources, the term “White Russia” was used very loosely and often meant geographically different places. If it had been used consistently as a name for a particular Russian territory it would have stayed as such as most geographical names do. We can only guess how things were perceived 500 years ago. I don’t think there is a particular conspiracy or agenda here.


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[Vessna]

Since when did you become an alpha male? Humiliated cockerel.

Classy.. I get Russian Zona vibe.


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[Ugo]

Again, from what I’ve read in Russian and English sources, the term “White Russia” was used very loosely and often meant geographically different places. If it had been used consistently as a name for a particular Russian territory it would have stayed as such as most geographical names do. We can only guess how things were perceived 500 years ago. I don’t think there is a particular conspiracy or agenda here.


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Perhaps this is a late tracing paper from Slavic. You are right that Belaya Rus is a very common name for various territories of late medieval Russia. The beginning of the Belarusian name should be sought in the Slavic tradition.

[rothaer]

In the proto-Slavic language, the four cardinal directions were associated with colors.
White — North, Red —West, Black — South, and Green — East.
Thus, Belarus = land of the Northern Rus.

Striking, thanks.

If the "combattants" in this thread ignore this statement, they can not seriously be interested in enlightment. Btw. what you say also fits well to White Croats etc.

[thatoneton]

In the proto-Slavic language, the four cardinal directions were associated with colors.
White — North, Red —West, Black — South, and Green — East.
Thus, Belarus = land of the Northern Rus.

Sadly no proof exist that this was the case.

[thatoneton]

Striking, thanks.

If the "combattants" in this thread ignore this statement, they can not seriously be interested in enlightment. Btw. what you say also fits well to White Croats etc.

The problem is that there is no any proof that the Slavic languages used a different meaning of colors as cardinal directions than the Asian cultures. Thus it was most likely the same:

Black-North
East-Blue
Red-South
White-West

Same with "White Croats", a term found for example in the Primary Chronicle where it is used for the Balkan Croats as opposed to the "Rus" Croats.

[Alenka]

Sadly no proof exist that this was the case.

Cope.

Source: Ukrainian Soviet Encyclopedic dictionary, Kiev, 1987.

[rothaer]

You also have this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Ruthenia